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David G. Calderone
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Username: Kaos
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 07:26 pm: | 
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I was curious if anyone knows the reason for the weight restriction for the rear compartment for an Argo 6x6? Argo list the maximum capacity at 140 pounds, that is not even an average sized adult male. |
Lance Sammer
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Username: Cragen
Post Number: 9
Registered: 08-1997
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 12:27 pm: |
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David You mean Argo said only 140lbs?
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David G. Calderone
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Username: Kaos
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:32 pm: |
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Per the 2008 Argo catalog, page 15, the load capacity for the rear compartment is 140 pounds or 63 kg. Like I noted before, not even enough for an average adult. Nor is it enough capacity for my two dogs. I like the argo Frontier, but this restriction for a 4 seater (?) may push me to the Max IV. The Argo Avenger is out of my price range. |
David G. Calderone
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Username: Kaos
Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:33 pm: |
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Please note that I am only refering to the Argo 6x6, and not the 8x8 which have no weight restrictions. |
Eddie L. Beddingfield
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Username: Argo2003
Post Number: 77
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:52 pm: |
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David,I think it for weight position.Any more than 140 and it will offset the motor, trans., battery weight.Making the machine heavier in the rear than the front.this will affect water performance and make machine more apt to flipping over backward going uphills.It is not that the machine will not take the extra weight,but to be safe ODG has to put a limit on the rear compartment. Eddie |
Eddie L. Beddingfield
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Username: Argo2003
Post Number: 78
Registered: 08-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:56 pm: |
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I have had 4 full sized adults in mine and went across a pond,the front was ok, the black rubber ring was under the water in the back. This was on a Bigfoot,naturally a 8x8 has more floatation in the rear,and uphill stability is way better even with more weight in the rear. Eddie |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 329
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:47 pm: |
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How about the soon to be released frontier based 8 wheeler? Less $ than the avenger. Don't know your budget or intended uses, but in water, the 8's are a pleasure to step into the back and walk around like a deck boat. Run a motor, load a dog, etc. |
David G. Calderone
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Username: Kaos
Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 03:06 pm: |
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Here are the issues, the 8x8 Frontier with required upgrades, skid plate, bearing extension, etc put it over $16,000 in my market. In addition, I am under the impression that the 8x8 Frontier 650 has the old transmission, while only the 6x6 Frontier and 8x8 Avenger have the newer transmision.
I live in Alaska so I pay the big shipping premium. I can get a Frontier 6x6 for about $3,500 less. Until the indroduction of the new Frontier I was going to go with a Max IV.
Problem is no Max dealer in area, so no local support. We have a long running and well established argo dealer less than 5 miles from my house.
I also like the shorter and more manueverable 6x6 over an 8x8. I know I can solve a lot of my problems by adding a trailer. Get the extra cargo space when I want it, and have the a smaller 6x6 for most of my operations.
Still considering the Max IV, as I am sure I can handle most of my problems I might encounter myself. But there is that certain feeling of comfort when you can visit the dealer for expert help, and get the parts same day.
By the way, for adivice it might be helpful if you knew my intended purpose. I will use it for some small lake/pond fishing, but mostly for hunting caribou and moose. I will also use it to plow snow in the winter, as I have a rather large driveway. |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 330
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:27 pm: |
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Argo has dropped the response and conquest. The frontier 8x8 is all new, IE a frontier with 2 more feet of cargo space. What ever you get, enjoy! |
momobigfoot
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Username: Momobigfoot
Post Number: 34
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 06:06 pm: |
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You may be suprised at how 8x8 can handle tight areas. Good drivers can really make them get around. Roger Smith one of the best. |
MO Max & Argo Dealer
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Username: Brandon_price
Post Number: 238
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 06:38 pm: |
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The Frontier 6x6 handles rear cargo weight a little bit better than the old Bigfoot since the tires are pushed farther out to the corners. Still, 140 pounds is a reasonable limit. I always thought it was a low number until I tried it. A 200 pound adult in the back with two in the front seat made the vehicle just plain dangerous on hills. Water was about the same. The vehicle was nose high with the rear only inches from going under. The Argo 6x6s are best suited for two people and cargo. The 8x8 vehicles are awesome for stability on water and they still get around in tight areas easily. All 2008 Argo models have the new transmission, including the Frontier 8x8.
The Max IV is unique with it's four person capacity. The 23hp air cooled Kohler is one of my favorite models. Good price tag, plenty of power, and true four man floating ability. The new 29hp EFI Kawasaki engine will also be a great choice if you need maximum power. Just remember adding larger engines and accessories will decrease its floating ability. Maxs are very easy to repair if needed. I wouldn't be worried about a dealer next door. Most of them stock very few parts any way. The factory stocks everything and ships quick. |
David G. Calderone
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Username: Kaos
Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 07:20 pm: |
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Thanks for the input. I will stop by the Argo dealer today for more information. I will also see if I can budget for the 8x8. Would be great to have the 8x8 capacity. By the way, looking forward to Brandons review of the 8x8 Frontier. |
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