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preston
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I am going to buy a new Atv, looking at the Max 2 and Argo 6x6
Both dealers say theirs is best and the other one junk. Can someone
tell me the truth Teh Argo is more money but that is not the most
important thing, Which will is better which will hold up better
Thanks in advance Preston Brothers |
shorttoy
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ARGO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO
ARGO RULES |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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The best machine for you depends on what you will be using it for. The vehicles look similar but after the six wheels and amphibious ability, the two machines are completely different. I've been a diehard Max rider since the beginning. That doesn't make the Argo junk though. It will soon join my Max dealership since I realize it might be better suited for some people. |
atv6
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Preston
I like the argo better because
it has the motor in the front it climbs better and it is better lookin
Randy Hayes |
Howard
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Mr Price
are you going to sell the Extreme Machine
too.. just kidding, maybe.maybe not.
Howard |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Preston,
Either one is a good machine. I personally like the Max better and I sell the Max. I sold both, the Max and Argo and sold 15 Maxes to every one Argo. I am not saying Argo is junk by any means. They are both great atv's. Since being an dealer for both, just Max now, putting on many atv jamboree's each year, with both there, I can and will tell you the truth about both atv's and you can decide which one is better for you. Just contact us toll free # is 888-545-5713. Ask for Troy or Bud. |
bigredwolf
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Hello,
I just recently went through the exact same contemplating, of which brand Max or Argo would be best for me. I looked them all over thouroughly, test drove many different units for many years. What I learned and know is that both brands the Argo and Max are exellent brands. The designs of each are unique in many ways, however, the designs of the units, the quality of manufacturing, and the support services that you will get from either brand, the factory and the dealers, will be excellent.
The only real thing that you will need to do, is decide which unit and model will best suite your intended use and application. Forget about the brand bashing crap, and one saying the other is junk bull crap, both are excellent, and either will serve you well. Just pick the one you like best, and will work for you best. |
John Schwab (Johnschwab)
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Preston- Nothing helps making a decision like some actual muddy seat time. If you are in the geographical area, join us at Haspin Acres Indiana Jan 10-11. You will learn more in one afternoon than you can in a year of discussion! |
John Martin
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I like the Max II because you sit down in side of it with your legs comfortably extended in front of you with no engine in the way, kind of like a Porsche-rear engine, high performance. I also like the t-20 transmission, easy to drive-push both sticks forward make all six wheels spin approach. The only things I like about the Argos are the wheel bearings. To me the Max II is sporty feeling and a very capable machine in all types of terrain, especially if its just you by yourself. Good luck with what ever you choose. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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preston, As I've said many times before to others, get someone who knows how to drive the machine you are interested in and get a demonstration, even if you have to drive 3 or 4 hundred miles to get the demonstration. Be aware that there is a learning curve on being able to get the most from a skid steer (at least for the T-20). PSI on the ground and machine balance is what gets you there and back if flotation is important where you will be going. Max offers the best performance because they have the lowest machine weight and the biggest tires. When comparing, remember that the Argo Bigfoot and the Vanguard compare to the Max II.
If you decide on a new Max, make sure you get solid axles, O-ring chain, and 22" tires. The Argo Bigfoot comes closest to being comparable to a Max, but check the specs. Total weight to footprint and engine choices for HP to the ground gives advantage to Max. If you decide on an Argo, make sure you get a winch because machine design does not allow you to back out of a troublesome situation as a Max can.
Good luck in your research. I'm sure whatever current model you choose, you will get lots of enjoyment and memories. |
bigredwolf
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Hello Again,
I wanted to toss out a follow up note to my first message posting that provided to you. In my case, I chose to buy the newly released Max IV 950T unit, fully loaded, with the big 27 HP Kawasaki Liquid cooled engine, rahter than the Argo 6x6 or 8x8 Conquest units, fully loaded, with the 20 HP Kawasaki Liquid cooled engine. I made my choice for a couple of reasons, 1) I realy did not need the Argo 8x8, because I do not intend to carry and haul huge loads like building materials, or haul a full size bull moose including all of my gear in one trip out of the bush. 2) In my case it came down to the Max IV 950T and the Argo 6x6 Conquest, both with the biggest Kawasaki engines offered, being the appropriate size and type of machine for me. With either of these machines, I can load them up with gear and a hunting partner, and I can pull a decent size amphibious pull behind trailer, to haul extra gear, meat, or what ever, and take some of the load off of the towing machine. 3) I have been on a buy American Products roll since about last year some time. 4) I was offered a very nice deal to buy the Max IV 950T unit. The Max guys continued to follow up and work with me until they sealed a deal with me, and my local Argo dealer did not even really try to do any thing about it from his side. Need less to say I was very disappointed about that.
If you are looking for a unit to just go mud bogging and have great time with, and also be a functional unit to go out and do some hunting or near shore fishing, or snow plowing, or having a great time in any depth of snow. Then a 6x6 Max II, or an Argo Vanguard or Argo Bigfoot are excellent choices. If you intend to run the snow/mug tracks or plow snow, then get the biggest engine and horse power offered by either.
If you are a very tall person like my self, then the Max II is a excellent choice. It probably has the most leg room of any machine offered out there.
If you intend to haul lots of gear and cargo, and put your unit through some intense heavy duty usage, either working or hauling, then consider either the newest Max IV 950T unit, or the either of the Argo Conquest units. The Argo 8x8 being the most capable of extremely heavy hauling. The 8x8 unit are a bit tougher to manuever through the woods and so on, because of the longer length.
I actually always did like the sporty look, and feel, and handling of the Max II unit. However, what I really needed was the larger unit. I will probably also buy a new Max II unit, just to satify the want to have one urge eventually.
You will still have to do about the same amount and type of maintanance with either brand that you decide to buy. They have to be maintained properly, to continue to be reliable. Again both brands are excellent, both brands have been around for over thirty years, and both brands are proven, each in their own right. Hands down, an Ampibious ATV by far can do much more than any 4 wheeler, or snow mobile can do.
I hope this information shared helps you to choose what you want to buy. When I looked at these aspects, it help me to make my choice.
Good Luck!
"bigredwolf" |
drmac
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Preston -
It all depends on what you need the machine to do. Will it be in the water a lot? If yes, go with a Max or an Argo 8-wheeler. Hauling cargo or tools? Argo. Taking friends into the wilds? MaxIV or Argo 8. Need low speed gearing? Argo. Need more speed? Max. Cost will figure into this, too. both are fine machines with different design trade-offs. Think about what you want to do, then pick the machine. Feel free to e-mail me if you want to talk. |
Eddie Beddingfield
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Fred there you go trying to make comparisons again. Bigfoot and Max 2 dont compare. Bigfoot offers 4 passenger seating. Bigfoot offers much larger tire. Thicker body, Heavier frame, better bearings, heavier chains.You actually sit properly in a Bigfoot and dont sit with your feet and legs sticking up under the dash, So much for psi on the ground. More machine will equal higher psi... |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Eddie, What are you talking about. Argo Vanguard and Bigfoot have all the same load hauling specs, the same outside dimensions, the same wheel base, etc., etc. Maybe you are saying Argo doesn't have a model that compares to a Max II - I might agree. But what are you going to compare them too, If you think the Bigfoot or Vanguard compares to the Max IV, the contest is over before it even starts (The max IV wins hands down in every category). |
John Martin
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If that is sitting properly in a Bigfoot then I would much rather sit in relaxation in a MaxII without hitting my knees on the dash/engine cover. If I needed to sit properly with my knees bent 90* down like I'm in a school chair I can still do that too. Both machines have the same type of bench seats but the Max II has all the leg room. |
Joe
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Eddie: You should really do your research before you open your mouth. Bigfoot holds 2 passengers (and 2 kids), 140 lbs in the rear is two very small (70lb) people. Bigger tire yeah. Stronger ladder frame - Max II. Chains? Argo has some double roller chain, Max has all top quality O-ring. Argo runs a smaller (lighter load capacity) bearing than a Max. Sit properly in a Bigfoot? Yeah you're upright but steering from the right side? Is this the US or Europe? Same body material, why does the Argo need a skid plate? Not because the lower body is thicker than a Max II. Test drive both and buy the one that fits you best. Each have their pros and cons. I own both, a 2000 Max II 800 and a 1998 Bigfoot. |
Laurier
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Does anyone have any information on the new Argo coming out. I've spoke with a locale dealer in the area (Ontario) and he said looks like some kind of 8x8 bigfoot, with larger motor, different transmission and rubber tracks. Can anyone give me some insight? If there is a new model coming soon I will wait to buy my new toy. |
bigredwolf
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I have heard the same thing about a new 8x8 with big wheels coming soon from Argo. I also heard a similar rumor that R.I., possibly had a new 8x8 big wheel machine on the drawing board also. Do not know if any of the rumors are true or not. |
Eddie Beddingfield
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Joe, See which one outlasts the other. I would rather set off set than crowd my passenger. As for a Max2it is built light because it is meant to be a cheaper entry level model, Why would you need to upgrade all the things like chains, axles and motor.I am 5'9" and165 and can sit comfortly in the rear seats,it still has larger capacity than max 2 |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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My distributor says it will now be out in February. I think that is at least the third time it has been delayed. It is a Bigfoot 8x8 that is supposted to have some real nice improvements. I hear it has a transmission that provides true all wheel drive. Hopefully we will see that on all models. |
Joe
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Eddie, so your overloading the rear of your Argo? I see. You sit offset in a Max II (on the correct side of the vehicle) and my passenger (6'2" 220) and I (6' 175) have no problem riding all day long. Max II is built light? Ok, whatever. I never would have bought the Max II if the Bigfoot I have was enough machine for everything. Why does Agro upgrade you to the Bigfoot? Same machine as a Vanguard with a brake and engine upgrade. Anyway, enough of that. We are going off on a tangent here. I have about 80 hours on the Bigfoot (yeah, it sits a lot) and about 240 on the Max II. Both work excellent. Both need to be maintanined on a regular schedule. Neither has left me stranded. The max II is more "sporty" and has more hp. Yeah, it will out pull the Bigfoot. The Bigfoot is easier for the girlfriend to drive and can hold a bit more cargo. Preston, you need to drive both and see what is best for you. Both will last you years with just a little preventative maintenance. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Eddie, I don't think you realize that there are four models of Max II. The 450T with a 14 HP Briggs engine has standard (hollow) axles, standard chain and the fragile Nankang tire (the least aggressive skid steer tire made). This machine is for those who run around on flat ground for transportation and is less money than the other models. The 500T, 600T and 850T all have the new splined axles, o-ring chain and the tough Goodyear rawhide tire (I wish they had the 22" rawhide III tire) as standard. The 850T has a few modifications to accommodate the 23HP engine - other than that they are all the same machine except for engine. Same is true for the Max IV, except there are five models. The 500T is the basic, lower priced, transportation on flat ground machine. The other four models are all the same except for engine size and necessary modifications required by different engines (for instance, the 900T (and I think, the 950T) have a bigger drive pulley (required for bigger engine output shaft) which allows the machines to have a faster ground speed). Hour for hour, the machines will hold up just fine compared to any other machine made. When considering what the skid steers (at least Max) are asked to do, they are superior to most other machines. To fault the quality of a current model max means you have not seen or used one. Of course they break and require maintenance (they are a machine) and that is what the warranty is for. And if one owns both Max and an Argo, the Max will wear out first because the Argo will just sit in the shed. And if a Max and Argo are both ridden in the same places on the same trips by two different drivers, the max will probably wear out first because it will go were the Argo won't and it will have to work double time going back to pull out the Argo (it will have more hours of use because it will be going all the time while the Argo is sitting stuck and/or waiting for a tow out or up).
I'm not saying the Argo is junk - it is a heavy well built machine, but in the places where flotation is necessary (mud, snow, sand, loose footing, fragile ground, etc.) it just doesn't measure up (performance wise)to the Max machines. And all the cargo room is for want if you can't go (or need to winch every time you come to a tough spot). |
Eddie Beddingfield
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What I am saying is Max2 and Argo BF do not compare as Fred was saying in previous post. I do say that Between the entry level machines Argo vanguard can haul 4 passengers ,my kids love it! and does not have to be seriously upgraded. Max2 is strictly 2 passenger with shallow cargo area.As I was pointing out the differences to Fred who made the comparison in the first place. My part of the thread ends here........... |
Pontus
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hallo is it anybody how nows were i can buy a conquest in europe? |
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