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Mike Maroni
Junior Member
Username: Micmac
Post Number: 17
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 162.83.101.93
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:35 pm: | |
This is on a 92 max IV
I installed the entire rear assembly on my max
new bearings, axles. When looking at the machine from behind the two rear axles look like they are forming a slight "V" . What's causing this? I had the frame out and know it's square. The only thing I can think is that both the inner and outer bearings are pointed slightly up causing the axles to angle up. When I installed the axles I tightened the inner bearing up in it's mount, and kept the outer bearing mount slightly loose so I could slide the axle into both bearing assemblies. Maybe I should loosen both mounts and see if I can adjust the axle. Any suggestions? I thought maybe this was due to body sag but I would imagine that wouldn't affect the frame.
Mike |
liflod
Intermediate Member
Username: Liflod
Post Number: 72
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 67.165.55.22
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 08:05 am: | |
Are you sure the axles are actually higher on the outer ends and not an optical illusion due to the shape of the body?
If they are not level, the frame is probably bent. |
Howard Hoover
Junior Member
Username: Howard_hoover
Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 4.161.109.63
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 09:47 am: | |
Did you check your bearings when you installed them? some times they are not installed perfectly straight actually a lot of the time. |
Howard Hoover
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Username: Howard_hoover
Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 4.161.109.63
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 09:53 am: | |
What I meant to say is the bearing might not be installed in the housing straight. If both bearings were installed slightly off you might not notice it at the frame or even where the chains are wrapped around the sprockets but by the time you look at it all the way out at the tires it will be off that much more. |
Howard Hoover
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Username: Howard_hoover
Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 4.161.109.63
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:00 am: | |
I'd like to know what kind of tolerances the factory holds their frames to, because you can adjust the bearing inside the housing and I wonder if they ever have to do this? |
david berger
Senior Member
Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 291
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 11:16 am: | |
howard,they are probly truer and straiter than in the old days but they use sphiricle bearings for there "self aligning"capabilitys.
it shoulent be to big of a strech ether to imagine in the fraims life time it may become skued somewhat.
some of us are terror's at the latterals!
mike just do the best you can. the factory cant do any better,
it'l be ok as long as the sprokets are aligned well. |
liflod
Intermediate Member
Username: Liflod
Post Number: 73
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 67.165.55.22
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 02:11 pm: | |
The self aligning bearings (concentric) allows the axle to align itself to the frame. So if the frame is bent, the axles stick up on the outer ends. The bearings will not cause the axle to stick up on the ends. |
Mike Maroni
Junior Member
Username: Micmac
Post Number: 18
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 162.83.101.93
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:48 pm: | |
Here is a picture
Mike |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
Senior Member
Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 278
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.196.202
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 08:54 am: | |
Have you tried shooting a laser level from behind across the axles? The shape of the lower tub can cause an optical illusion that the rear tires are canted in at the top. It is not accurate to try and measure from the part of the tub down to the axle because the body can be different on both sides due to age or warping. I would try shooting a laser level to see if the axles are on a plane and if they are in alignment. The photo makes it hard to tell because it is hard to determine without knowing the distance from the camera to subject or the focal length used. In the photo they look fine to me. |
Mike Maroni
Junior Member
Username: Micmac
Post Number: 19
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 162.83.101.93
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 10:03 am: | |
Thanks for the Idea jerry. I'll try that today sometime. It's hard to tell if it's just an optical illusion or the really are canted. I took apart one of the assemblies today to see it could be adjusted no dice. So I did what David B. advised and made sure the sprockets line up. I guess that's the best I can do. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 279
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.196.202
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 12:32 pm: | |
I agree, if your sprockets are in line you should be ok. You can check it from the rear and the sides with a laser to see if all the axles are in line. To see the illusion just go to ebay and look at a few pics of them for sale. They will look like yours. I've got a new 950T in the garage and it looks the same way. Ieven have a slope to the floor in the garage and it always throws me off by making me think the tires are low on one side. The laser idea also works for aligning the sprockets. |
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