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cliff b
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Any tips on repairing 6-8in. long cracks in a flat area on a post 70 Hustler? Thanks in advance. Cliff |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
cliff you need to edit your profile, your e-mail presently is cliffbar@shreve,net
the , is a mistake
it's cliffbar@shreve.net right?
anyway try holding an asatone soaked rag on the plastic for a few min. if it reacts by disolving its ABS and if it dose nothing its polyetheline |
Cliff Barrington (Cliffb)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Dave, I see what you mean, but when I look at my profile it's a dot, not a comma. I don't know how to fix it. Cliff |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
i fixed one of mine but before i figuerd out how i made a new one, and im not realy shure how i fixed it, heh heh,
posably the best bet is to just do it over, sorry its all i can think of, it might meen a new handle but people can respond to it anyway,
anyway you might also leave a note on the profile that that one dosent work and add a new line with the correct e-dress for thouse who click on old posts and the new handle will take cair of new ones,
good luck
david |
davidb3rd@aol.com (David3rdd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
cliff heres my old pached up profile if it helps
or prehaps when you type in your user name and password you could go threw the extra step and put in a e-mail adress in the next box |
philip osborn
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Hey everyone! I just picked up another ABS kit from David Berger. He just has added orange to his other regular colors. The kit comes with detailed instructions, storage container, preparation tools and applicators. The kit goes for 10 dollars and shipping is included anywhere in the continental USA. |
ISAAC EISENMAN (Tropicjungleboy)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
I JUST MAKE A BONDING PERFORMANCE TEST BETWEEN ABS AND PELLET PLASTIC OVER ABS BODY CRACK.....I TRY TO FIX SOME CRACK ON MY ABS BODY MAX ll ON THE OUTSIDE OF MOUNTING BOLTS ( THE ONES THAT LINK THE UPPER AND THE LOWER BODY)....I TRY FIRST TO "FILL UP" WITH ABS BELONG TO SAME BOTTOM BODY WHERE THE DISCHARGE HOSE FROM BILGE PUMP IS NOW LOCATED....I FOUND THAT PELLET PLASTIC MAKE STRONG BONDING BETWEEN ABS EDGES THAN WITH ABS ALONG.......MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT PLASTIC MASTER...SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH "RE COOK" ABS....BUT PELLET PLASTIC SECURED VERY WELL THE ABS...... |
keith bergh (Highlander)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
YOU CAN ALSO USE A PRODUCT CALLED DEVCON OR PLEXUS. IT'S A TWO PART 1/1 RATIO PLASTIC WELDER AND IT WORKS BEST ON ABS. YOU CAN PICK IT UP AT ANY WALLMART STORE. VERY EASY TO APPLY. YOU CAN ADD A COLORANT OR MIX IN TOUCH UP PAINT AND MATCH ABOUT ANY COLOR. ANOTHER PRODUCT IS OATEYS RED LABEL BUT THIS TAKES ABOUT 48 HRS TO CURE ENOUGH TO TRUST WHEREAS THE 1/1 WILL COMPLETELEY CURE IN ABOUT 12 TO 18 MINUTES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY AND HELP.
ONE MORE OPTION IS TO MAKE A SLURRY USING MEK AND ABS SHAVINGS. MIX THEM IN A COFFEE CAN UNTIL YOU GET A SYRUP CONSISTENCY. THEN SREAD IT ON. |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
the best way is with the abs but mek is too harsh to the abs |
dukhntr
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
I just repaired my Max IV (polyetheline) with a welder from the supply.co I had to let every one know how easy it was, it took a little patience, but I got a pretty nice repair. where I had a rubbed hole in the side body. I ordered an ATV fender repair kit for 40 bucks, and some HDPE sticks for about 8 bucks more. A total of 50 dollars. If you have small repairs on a new style body this is a good way to go.
Paul |
roadwolf
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
what is "MEK", and what is the good/bad about it? |
Attex Bob
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Wolf: MEK is M-ethel E-thel K-eytone. The good part- it makes for a hell of a good cleaner if you are going to patch a tire. The bad part- it stings like a S.O.B. if you get some in you eye!!!! If I remember right I think it dries slower than lets say acetone. David am I right? |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
MAYBE, I DIDENT RACE THE TWO, BUT IT DRYES WITH A STAIN ON THE SERFICE,
I HADENT ANY LUCK WITH IT
IT DOSE WELD TWO PIESES OF ABS TOGETHER BUT IT WAS MORE LIKE A GLUE WELD THAN PERFICT FUZION AS THE ASATONE GOO,
PREHAPS I'LL TRY THEM AGAIN SOMETIME,
OOH ASATONE WILL STING LIKE A BEE IF YOU HAVE ANY CUT'S |
JT Barleman
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Anybody have a trashed crashed broken YELLOW ABS Attex body laying around? I'm fixing up my vintage ATTEX and I need a chunk to shave with a Forsner bit and mix up a batch of dbergen's famous "slurry" mix to patch the holes. Will gladly pay the shipping. RSVP ASAP to namelrab@directvinternet.com
"JT" |
liflod (Liflod)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
I have a whole body or three I can cut up for you. I'll even deliver! Send me a message on my work Email.
Lance |
kush
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
guys why cut up a body? Go to McMAster Carr & buy some ABS sheet. SAve the bodies, they should be able to be repaired. |
Michael Schiedel-Webb (Mswebb)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Hey guys, I just bought a 1979 Argo with a crack in the lower body. It has been temporarily repaired with some silicon but it won't hold. Can anyone recommend the proper products for this type of repair and where I might be able to get them in the Toronto Canada area? |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
try a soldering iron to melt the sides together,
you may need to trim off some plastick from a out of sight spot you don't need it at and use it too fill as you weld, if you cant find some body matireal to trim for filler most oil containers are also made from polyethilin and might be a good filler,
you can melt and mix with soldering iron and cool over heated spot with back of spoon to solidify it quick, good luck dude, hey after welding scrape sideways with a knife or razor blade to smoth out your weld, works great!!! |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
If You have a skid Plate on the vehicle (however, by the sounds of it, because its on the lower body of the machine, their isn't one,) but if you have one, cut a small piece off it from the back or front where you may not need it. Its just a skid plate and odds are that cutting a small piece off the back will not make a difference. |
Larry Houghton
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Michael-I've have a no. for you.This place fixes plastic parts on just about anything.The no. is 1-877-785-9353 and he says should be able to fix it.Also this place is in Oshawa on Vimy Ave. Might be worth a call. |
Michael Schiedel-Webb (Mswebb)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
There is definately no skid plate on this vehicle. I would like to repair the crack properly and then add a plate. Other plans include adding a winch and tracks. |
Michael Schiedel-Webb (Mswebb)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Thanks for the number Larry. I'll give them a call and see what they can do. |
greek
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Hi
Try finding a place where they spray on truck box linings like Rino Lining ,etc.They can spray that stuff on pretty thick.I talked to a fellow at the Sportsman Show and seen what this stuff is like and beleive me it is really tough and plyable.They even use this inside of dumptrucks.If you can get this put on your machine it should repair your body and serve as a skid plate and would be a whole lot cheaper and better than a skid plate that you purchase from a dealer.
Pete. |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
the bedliner has bin tryed by a few with mixed results, basicly it's tough enoph but dosent skid well, by this i mean it is a high friction matireal and will hang you up easyer, we need to slide over things with our underbellys from time too time and that truck bed liner will stop your slideing days short! |
Howard
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
You can get a plastic welding kit from Harbor Freight tools comes with some welding rods just be sure to use the right rod for the type of material your welding. I can't tell you the most effective way to use it because I've only used mine once and haven't had time to try it again lately. You do have to have an air compressor to use this welder with about 5 psi of pressure flowing through, it helps cool the thing while your using it because it heats up to about 600 degrees supposedly also be sure and leave air flowing through until it cools or it may damage the welder. I got mine on sale for about 29.95 or something like that. |
Kippnidaho
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
Hello everyone,
New guy here great site, I have purched some parts already from Richard great guy to work with. I am going to need to do some extensive repairs on my Amphicat body and I am curious as to the best method of repair. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
email me @ gillk@empirehealth.org
Thanx
Kipp |
S.G TORONTO (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 64.12.116.203
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 04:08 pm: | |
hey everyone i have repaired (poly) bodies (argo) the way it states to do so in the older argo manuals. PRACTICE on old bleach bottle plastic! cheap and would end up in recycling bin anyway.butane hand torch area of crack 2-3 minutes to warm up. area warm to touch. DO NOT MELT!!! pour tap water on area after warming. if water produces a film and holds area is good, if beads and rolls off then repeat above mentioned a little longer. allow evaporationDO NOT TOUCH OR WIPE OFF AREA!!! THAN APPLY CHEMLOCK 304 OR GENERAL ELECTRIC SILICONE SEAL. WORKS great with the CHEMLOCK 304. I used this method numerous times on an old argo. hope this helps!! ANY TORONTO OR AREA RIDERS? DO NOT CARE IF YOU HAVE A MAX OR ARGO OR OTHER AATV, JUST THINKING OF MAYBE STARTING A RIDERS CLUB AS I DONT KNOW OF ANY. KNOW GREAT TRAILS WITH LOTS OF WILDLIFE/ BUSH/ SWAMPS/ LAKES AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COMPANY TIME TO TIME. KEEP THE OLD ONES ALIVE AND THE NEW ONES PURRING!!!!!!!!!!!! |
fred sain (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 12.168.170.158
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 09:33 am: | |
Kippnidaho, We use the plastic welder, have for years. After some practice, you can repair about any damage, and make it look good too. Our,s is electric, no air. Bought it from Snap-On Tools. |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 65.205.27.98
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 08:18 am: | |
Hey, S.G.
Thanks for the information. Who sells Chemlock 304 and where can I get it?
Thanks. |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.154.9.217
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:35 am: | |
youl find it quite simple to weld polyethiline with an old soldering iron and a spoon,
yes a spoon, you use the back of spoon to spot cool any over heated stuff, and scrape sidewase with a sharp knife to sand your repair smooth,
you must find as cloase chemicly a grade of polyethiline though, for best repair,
(high dencity)usualy if cools slowly it is strongest, |
s.g (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 152.163.100.203
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 02:08 pm: | |
sorry could not get back too you earlier DON KINYON had a death in the family (s##t happens). princess auto used to carry it and i also ordered it from varies companies. ometimes hard to find,but if you search web you'll find it! i'll try too remember the name of the last guys i bought it from and post it for u. |
s.g (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 152.163.100.203
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:52 pm: | |
DON an alternative plastic expoxy repair kit similar to the chemlock 304 would be any kit that can be purchased from your local AUTO BODY repair shop that has a semiflexible kit, used on majority of car bumpers and the like. but the treatment of the body as mentioned in my earlier post is the most critical for the bond to last.the company that used to produce Chemlock 304 has been bought out by some other company in the agri-feild and does not produce it to my knowledge and the little research i did after my last post.still might be able to find some out there though check your your local auto body supply shop, that is what i will be doing from now on |
roadwolf (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 70.50.122.47
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 02:45 am: | |
sg, how in the hell can you associate shit happens w/ death in the family? |
Anonymous
Posted From: 209.162.162.72
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 10:04 pm: | |
Recently I received a 2002 Aeon Cobra 180. The front left fender is missing a piece where it attaches to the footboard is there anyway i can fix this or at least somewhere to buy a new part since they are hard to find.} |
RejeanKirouac
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Username: Argo_boy
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 70.110.248.46
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:42 am: | |
where can i buy a plastic repair kit for old Argo early 70 Super sport,
Thank you!
Argo boy |
david berger
Intermediate Member
Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 97
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.142.193.237
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 06:00 pm: | |
argoboy if your old argo's made from ABS, i have ABS repair kit's
davidrrrd@yahoo.com
1970 should be ABS but to test it try holding an asatone soaked rag agenced the plastic someplace out of site like inside engin compartment, hold it for 1 or 2 minuets, if then theres some plastic on the rag or you can push your finger nail into it (plastic gets soft) then it is ABS,
if absolutly nothing happens it may be polyethiline,
give me an e-mail for more details or questions. |
RejeanKirouac
New member
Username: Argo_boy
Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.242.27.120
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 08:10 am: | |
looking for an old plastic hood <1970>,
thank you! |
Kurt Novak
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Username: Ace911emt
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 24.52.174.45
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 05:43 pm: | |
Attex superchief had oversized tires and has 3 areas rubed through the body and require large repairs the body is Polyethylene actone has no effect and need a strong and good looking repair any ideas? |
Kurt Novak
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Username: Ace911emt
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 24.52.174.45
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 09:54 am: | |
I think I answered my own question, Polyethylene
can be repaired with 3M dp-8005 this looks like the right stuff. anyone used it? also found this page for more info www.stealth316.com/2-dp8005.htm |
david berger
Advanced Member
Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 181
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.131.80.205
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:37 am: | |
kirt McMaster car was mentioned above,
i think theyd have polyethilin sheet, or maybe aluminum sheet would make a good pop rivited pactch, for spot frount to back the width of tire under the bodys overhang and above the tires,
posably passable as durable and sencable mod. |
Kurt Novak
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Username: Ace911emt
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 24.52.174.45
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:16 pm: | |
David, your point well taken. My hope is to achieve a smooth repair, the dp-8005 should work and if not, your sheet repair will be the answer. Wish me luck this weekend....we will see. |
Kurt Novak
New member
Username: Ace911emt
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 24.52.174.45
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 11:15 am: | |
3M dp-8005 worked great. I used wax paper as a backer/mold and worked just as I wanted, but the areas I just laid it in shrunk and had a bad appearance but sanded sooth, and it sticks to everything except the wax paper. Also the cost is high with all the attachments.
Kurt |
William R. Cox
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Username: Billy_bob_cox
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 71.96.102.163
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 07:10 pm: | |
I'm fixing up an older '91 Max IV. Need to repair a couple of cracks (cosmetic not structural). One is about 8" long in top rail where you enter. Dealer said welding doesn't work well (especially do it yourself). Suggested first drilling hole at each end of cracks to prevent spreading. Then fibreglass over the cracks. Maybe this 3M stuff is a better option for HDPE. Any more thoughts?/BBC |
david berger
Senior Member
Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 227
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.146.130.89
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:33 am: | |
welding should work, i welded the hull on mine and it held up quite nicely,
i used a 100 what soldering iron and only worked an inch at a time, you heat it till it begins melting and nit it together, add some filler as neede (some same plastic stolen from a none nesesary point elswhere on the body)
use the back of a spoon to freez the melted plastic solid quickly at any time when it is becomeing too melted and may become a hole if not gotten under controle, you will get the hang of it.
when done simply scrape sideways along the repair with the blade of a knife and this will shave it down smooth,done!
after this if you can get a piece of polyethiline sheet that covers this repair you can make an overlaping patch and drill and pop rivet it for strenth and this should perminently repair it, iff not try aluminum. maybe disquize it as a registration plaque or something. |
philip w.cox
Intermediate Member
Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 72
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.208.194.158
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 05:45 pm: | |
HI BBC---You have a very fine family name. Up here on the great lakes we have a few professional plastic welders that use a michine that looks like a cross between a wire feed welder and an industrial hair dryer. They make almost any plastic repair good as new or better.W. Philip Cox |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 178
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.174.97
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 06:09 pm: | |
I posted this earlier but it must have been lost in space. It has some interesting information and best of links to sources of welders and plastic. http://www.mv.com/users/morris/paddling/boat-repair.html |
William R. Cox
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Username: Billy_bob_cox
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 71.96.102.163
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 06:45 pm: | |
Thank ya'll for this info. I've found some more cracks but they're up high above the tires so maybe leave them alone or just a little silicone. The main one is in the floor board and jagged. Looks like someone caught a stump. Seems like the soldering iron method might work fine. I'm a pretty experienced gas welder so using a feeder of HDPE makes sense. I'm sure we have some plastic welders around the DFW area if I could get them to come out and do a house call. Sure not many of the Max ATV's around but I think they're cool./BBC |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 180
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.187.117
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 08:35 pm: | |
You may also try a body shop. They use the welder to fix urathane bumpers. |
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