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Keith Clayton

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's the easiest way to remove a driven torque converter from a JLO 440 engine? I'm doing an engine swap on my Attex and I have to take the converters off both the new one and the old one.
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Keith Clayton
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(you may need to print this)
WELL KITH YOU NEED THE RIGHT TOOL,
I MADE ONE BY CAIRFULY MESURING THE DEPTHE OF THE HOLE AFTER REMOVING THE BOLT THAT HOLDS ON THE CLUTCH, AFTER YOU KNOW HOW DEEP MESURE HOW DEEP THE BIGER THREAD IN THE CLUTCH GOS, YOU CAN REDUCE THE LENTH OF THE FIRST MESURMENT BY SOME OF THE LENTH OF THOUSE THREDS , LETS SAY BY 3/4S OF THE LENTH SO YOU STILL HAVE SOME CLUTCH HOLE AS A GIDE TO KEEP THE TWO BOLTS LINED UP AND ALSO INSURE YOU CAN GET THE INSIDE ONE OUT (lol)
i ground the head down on a carrege bolt and put a soft point on it too after cutting it to aprox lenth as above, now droping it into the hole it go's down a ways and leaves substantile lenth of threads in clutch hole for the right size bolt for thouse threads, you need a hardend bolt and thread coated with antiseze to help but the big bolt pushes on centered bolt to push apart the crank from clutch,
take a spark plug out and insert a long lenth of clean rope (like cloasline stuff) as much as you can while turning back and forth with the clutch till you get all you can in there, this will help hold the crank from moving while you work im told without any damage to engine, laiter it is easy to pull it out,
use a tork wrench to tighten your new tool and load it up a bunch while watching the tork on gage if it drops it means the bolt inside is bending so as much as posable without bending bolt inside,
when theres alot just take a brass rod 8 or 10 inches long and place one end on back of clutch at base where crank comes out and tap cairfuly with hamer
then try to get another angle to hit it the same way, i found i could find three diferent spots aposed to each other to hit mine, the shock transmited threw the clutch helps seperat the taperd fit along with the force from tork on the tool

method 2 same as above exept you can rent the right tool from ritchard clark
send $100.00 to him and he sends you tool
you pull them off cranks and send back tool ritchard sends you your $100.00 back this way he dosent loose tools,
he cannot take mastercard to speed things up as he lost bigg $$$$ on a bad deal
that guy screwed all of us when he burned ritchard clark,
and last but not least i just got catalogs from al's snowmobile parts wherehouse otherwise known as ATVparts.com there in vermont 1 807 487 1000
i see in there they have the tools at a nice price, call or e-mail them for the right part # for your aplication and then ask for there catalogs too!
they have 2 catalogs you need both
maybe you can tape your removal proses and send it to me so i can offer a "how too " video to the folkes who follow in the years to come, heh heh heh
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philip w.cox
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David-I have my engine and t-20 out of my Max Iv,I tried to remove the pulley after removing the long bolt with an impact gun ( makes it real easy to hold pulley from turning). I am glad I found your old posting above because I didn't know that you needed a special tool to pull the pulley off. Tommorrow I will search for a puller and report back, I don,t see a second ,larger thread on my pulley. W. Philip Cox
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philip w.cox
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

- Still can't get the pulley off of the T-20. It was late last night and I didn't stop to realise that the above instructions were for getting the pulley off of the engine crankshaft. Can anybody tell me how to get the CVT pulley off of the T-20 shaft?
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david berger
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Philip i havent bin sucsessful in removeing the trany pully from ether an attex or max t-20 as of yet, i hope someone responds with helpfull info soon!
david
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liflod
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I used a hydraulic press to press the transmission out of the clutch. There is no taper to the shaft, its just a keyway. I couldn't find a pullet that would get around the clucth sheaves. You may be able to put a bar between the clutch and T-20 to pry it off. Either way, put the clutch up in the air and spray it with PB blaster and let it soak. Once the bolt is out, there is nothing holding it on.
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philip w.cox
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks David and Lance, the pulley is off. It doesn't sound too professional but my friend came to help and we hung the pulley up by wrapping a narrow sling around where the belt would normally ride. We hung that sling up by the engine puller so the full weight of the t-20 was hanging on the pulley. We safety tied the t-20 so that we wouldn,t drop it and threaded the stock bolt without washers into the t-20 input shaft AND BEAT IT WITH A 2 lb. brass hammer! Lance is right, there is nothing else holding it on but it was tight all the way. Thanks again W. philip Cox
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liflod
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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