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Brian
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Username: Brianprovo
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 01:13 pm: | 
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I'm changing the oil in in my '02 Conquest today. The part number for the oil filter Argo says is 125-86. Anyone now a Fram number? I take that number into the Autoparts place and they just stare at me. ALSO: What do I use for the chain lube and as an alternative to the Shell Alvania #2 Grease that Argo states? It's snowing out so I want to get out and have some fun! |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 80
Registered: 01-2005
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It'll be interesting to see the responses you get from the experts...
Chain lube, I'd like to hear people's favorites..
Am using a Suzuki chainlube and am impressed with it. It's solvent based/soaks in/then stays on without slinging onto the brake rotor. Pat on the back to the argo engineers who thought it ok to have a primary sprocket that needs lube, next to a brake rotor that works best un lubed  The Suzuki stuff doesn't wash off easily. Chains soaked in engine cleaner, then car washed and dried, still have a film of lube on them. |
Larry Houghton (Unregistered Guest)
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Brian: Go into the auto jobber with engine make and model no. and see what they come up with.Fram should have the cross reference. For chain lube I just use some used engine oil. Works good for me. |
Jerry R. Nuss
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 02-2005
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I do what Roger does. I use a dirt bike chain lube. Something that doesn't stay wet and attract dust and dirt. I started using chain wax back in college on a mountain bike. I'd remove the chain clean it then melt a can of chain wax and immerse the chain in it.
For the Argo I don't like conventional oil or lube because it is messy and collects dirt and other abrasives. I went to a local motorcycle shop and asked what they had. They have had a couple of dirrecent brands of products each time I go in but they are comparable. Normally they require getting the chains up to operating temperature and then spraying them with the lube. The lube sets up as a dry film that doesn't collect dirt. One can I bought had a white lube and the other had a clear lube. Anyway the stuff works well. |
Jerry R. Nuss
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Post Number: 158
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I went out to the garage and checked on the brand. The stuff I have now is Maxima chain wax anf the stuff I used before was Bel-Ray chain lube. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 113
Registered: 01-2005
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I have found a product made by SFR corp., called Protecta that is an all purpose spray lube that is excellent. http://www.sfrcorp.com/cgi-bin/states/states.pl
Use this link to find it close to you.
It cleans, penetrates, lubricates and protects. It leaves a film after it dries and does not collect dust. Works really well for o-ring chains and lubricating throttle cables. |
Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Username: Brianprovo
Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 04:03 pm: |
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I did get my oil changed on my Conquest on Monday. I used a synthetic 10w30 and put a Fram filter on it. Got a cross reference to a Fram PH4967. Tried a siphon pump, didn't work for me. Must be the type I got. So I ended up putting the zip lock back down there and of course missed the bag so had towels soaking up all the dirty oil.
Larry my Argo manual says not use regular oil on the chians as it will be thrown off during use and contaminate the brake pads or discs. So I'm leary of doing that. I think I'll be heading to the store to see if they have some of the other mentioned lubes. I don't suppose chain saw lube would do?!? Still not sure what to use in place of the Shell Alvania #2 Grease? |
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Brian, word of caution, DON'T USE CHAIN SAW LUBE OR OIL ON CHAINS- if their is anything in the chain wells that can catch on, they will. Gets very dirty and also made a big mess on my floorpans in the back, sprayed up and around the visible sides in the back of the argo. |
Brian in FABULOUS Utah
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Username: Brianprovo
Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 09:06 am: |
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Ok, Good to know. I was actually joking about the chain saw lube as I had that on hand. Someone else said they used, used oil but my owners manual specifically states not to use that so I did go out and by the Suzuki chain lube yesterday at a local snowmobile/ATV store. $7.99 for a can that I believe was 14oz. |
Rogersmith
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Username: Rogersmith
Post Number: 81
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:48 pm: |
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Fred's stuff looks interesting, will that soak in by itself on cold chains? I've wanted to try the chain wax, but it says warm the chains before spraying. After I wash, the chains are bare, I don't want to run/warm them without lube.
The suzuki stuff is good, but Fred and Jerry have lubes that don't hold dirt. I'll try something new next time I buy. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 116
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 08:23 pm: |
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Roger, SFR stuff is a very good penetrant. I'm sold on PBlaster, but SFR is a close second, maybe even better. I first used protecta on a door latch that was always hard to close. I'd spray WD 40 or other similar lube about every two weeks for any easy close. I put a couple of drops of SFR on it and it has been over a year (actually almost two years now) without needing attention. I use it for everything now.
They also make an excellent grease. |
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