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Lance Sammer
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone played around with different oils in a T-20. Different brands, conventional or syn? Additives? What works best? Thanks
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Bill Bellis
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would think syn. would be to slippery. the bands have to grab and just like a wet clutch in a motorcycle the syn. would allow slipping. sure would be good for the bearings and gears though
just my thoughts bullwinkle
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robert longfellow
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Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I tried Red line Syn ATF, did not work at all, had a devil of a time getting enough of it out and replaced with regular Dextron III.

Do not use Syn ATF

Rob
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Bill Bellis
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Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what was the issue? bullwinkle
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Bob Eells
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do not try to use anything other than what is recommended. I thought that it would be better to use synthetic too. I tried using Amsoil atf and then t-20 did'nt like it a all. It was very jerky to start and stop. Trans grabbed and would slip on steep hills. When I went back to the regular fluid it was smooth with no jerks or slips
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Bill Bellis
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stnthetic motor oil, gear oil and grease, vastly superior!
Trans fluid because of the type applicatiion (slipping required) I'll stick with the regular stuff and just change it often.
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Bill Bellis
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Years ago I had a custom piece of equipment with an air cooled engine that ran super hot. Because the engines cooling air intake was next to impossible to keep clean the engines fan just could not do its job. I ran what was at the time really good oil, Valvoline 20W-50 Racing Oil. In less than 30 min. the oil would be burnt and black and even smell burnt. As a last resort I changed the oil to Amsoil syn. and was shocked to learn that it was not phased by the heat. Of course at some point the syn. oil would have been burnt but in certainly was surperior to the dino oil. I have been using it extensivley ever since. bullwinkle
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Bill Bellis
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just thought of another case where syn. grease solved a heat issue. A friend of mine ran a fleet of ford rangers as service vehicles. The trucks were always overloaded and driven in town. The front wheel bearing grease would actually get hot enough to melt causing them to replace front wheel bearings way to often. They switched to syn. grease. End of problem bullwinkle
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Jeff bar
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have has problems too using syn oil in a T-20 I suggest you do not ever use it

Jeff Bar
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david berger
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Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

don't forget the T-20 bands run in this lube/coolant.
if you use something not recommend you might damaged the bands.
they have bin re-designed several times over the years,
they continued development to make them cheaper,to do this required changes to the friction material as well as the glue holding the bands to the steal, ect.ect.
any of these might be affected by use of different lubes.
in the past i have Sean such posts from people who have used or bought machines with such things as motor oil and gear oil in them and wich had band failure.
it seams the only recommended lube is dextron iii and maybe the additive GM uses in rear ends for more slippage
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Jeff bar
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David How have they redesigned the bands?

Jeff Bar
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Ryan Singer
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Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do not think there have been any major redesign, but I am most likely wrong Ryan
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david berger
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Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

changes to the friction material as well as the glue holding the bands to the steal, ect.ect.

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