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Chris Connelly
New member Username: Trailpass
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 74.70.105.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 07:26 pm: |
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I just mounted up my new Rubber tracks from Argo on my 05' Avenger. I noticed that with the recommended pressures, the track was very loose - more than the 2-3 inches - it was saggy baggy. I did not use the extension piece. I increased the pressure a couple of pounds in each tire and that seemed to put it in the 2-3" sag range. What do you all run for pressures? Anything other than the book? Also, I noticed that I hear alot of plastic knocking about noises with the tracks - is that normal? Thanks for any insight! Chris |
Brad Morcom
New member Username: Evil1
Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 24.177.151.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 09:30 am: |
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The rubber tracks on my Avenger are very quiet, no banging at all. I used the manual that came with the tracks they were quite a bit better than the Avengers owners manual. I started with the tire pressures that they recommended and only had to ad a little more to the rear tires. I also had to use the spacer on the tracks. |
Bob Shelver
Member Username: Curly
Post Number: 47 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 209.193.76.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:22 am: |
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Gentlemen be sure that you follow the tire measurement instructions for running the Avenger rubber tracks or you can possibly have some drive train problems. Tire diameter, tread direction and air pressure all play a very important part. Inflate your tires to 5 psi and measure the diameter of the tire, and then put in them in the correct position on the vehicle as outlined in the instructions. |
Brad Morcom
New member Username: Evil1
Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 24.177.151.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 07:24 am: |
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Bob - As I stated I followed the instructions that came with the tracks. I havent had any troubles at all. I also have 25 years of mechanical experience, please dont state the obvious as it is an insult. We are not children. |
Bob Shelver
Member Username: Curly
Post Number: 48 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 209.193.67.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 11:06 am: |
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Well I apologize for unintentionally insulting your intelligence but there is a segment of owners that don't have 25 years experience and don't read the instructions or read the instructions and misinterpret them. Most of the time it is the obvious and in the 30+ years I have been dealing with mechanical issues and general public, issues can be solved with a refreshing of information and or new service bulletins. It is very difficult to write instructions for all skill levels in the world. So a quick check with your dealer and seeing if any updated information is out their can usually save some grief. All I was trying to do is give some insight to possible major problems with the drive train if you run the track too tight and you don’t follow instructions for sizing the tires. There are also new instructions out this last fall and changes some things. What the instructions don’t tell you that you could rip your idler shaft bearings out or sprockets apart, ruin chain adjusters if things are not set up properly. So I felt it warranted to say something. We have many Avengers in the field and the only ones we have had major trouble with are the ones that tires were changed around or running the track too tight or too loose. So Brad if you take all general comments personally you must feel offended quite often and it was not necessarily what I wrote. Not everyone is running their machines in the same application and some folks have found some tricks and share them and that is how products get improved, but not all ideas are the best ideas. |
Brad Morcom
New member Username: Evil1
Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 24.177.151.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:06 am: |
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Bob. I'm sorry I took your advice out of context. Your advice was good and sound and will be helpful for anyone having troubles. I now have about 35 hours on the rubber tracks. The only problem I have had is 5 broken track guides. I dont think thats too bad as alot of those hours are in thick Tag Alder swamps skidding out trees for firewood. This past weekend I dragged out about 3 cords of White Birch, we have about 30" of snow on the ground and the Avenger never got stuck. I cannot believe how good it is in the snow. |
Bob Shelver
Member Username: Curly
Post Number: 49 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 209.193.76.25
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 07:18 pm: |
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Attached is the newest Avenger track installation instructions that some may not have. As for track guides braking I just don't have a good answer. Loose track folding under during a turn on rough ground, down fall or rocks. Possibly some debris getting in between the track and tires it is just hard to say. If this is an exception rather then a norm then when you have an problem when you get back to the shop jack up the machine and check the track tension, tire pressure and if it is all ok then it may just be a situation. Sorry wish I had a firm answer.I guess the file is too large to attach so if someone needs the new stuff I would be glad to e-mail them to you. |