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Tom Danis
New member
Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 72.224.192.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 04:15 pm: | 
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Has anyone had any problems with their belt slipping on a max 4 |
Bud
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Username: Budtx
Post Number: 61
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 167.230.104.90
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 05:32 pm: |
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It can happen. After checking the tension, I suggest that you add a little belt dressing. It can really help |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 373
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.212.152
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 05:41 pm: |
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Is it getting wet? They will slip if there is some water splashing up on the belt or if it getting some rain on it.
If it is not wet how old is it? Are the clutches lubed with silicone spray regularly, and the belt with some dressing? |
Tom Danis
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Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2006
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I have lubed the belt with dressing and it still slips bad i took it to the dealer to have it looked at they shimmed it and put a new belt on her but after about 10 hrs its slipping and its always squeeling when you take off the other day it would not even go up a gravel road it had a small hill a polaris 90 4 wheeler pulled up next to me and stopped and took off pretty embarrasing ya know the machine has 45 hrs on it its a 2006 with the 23hp engine what a lemon whats next talk to my lawyer about the lemon law? |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 479
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 72.72.36.39
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 09:03 am: |
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is the belt still 1 3/16 wide?
have you bin lubeing the cluches? (inside)
is there any water in your hull?
i know the dealer only got you 10 hours but prehaps if he looks at it again he may be able to root out the cause this time. |
Tom Danis
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Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2006
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I have been lubing my clutches and the hull is dry I just called another dealer and he said possibly my secondary spring is giving me trouble opening to soon. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 376
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.223.39
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During the first 30-35 hours how did it run? Did it slip then, or did it just suddenly start doing this?
Then you used it for another 10 hours and it was never correct and is still not working correctly, am I understanding you correctly on this?
Since it is a 2006 it should still be under warranty, have you called the factory and explained the problem to them? |
Tom Danis
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Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2006
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It has been doing this since it was new first the tranny was slipping due to spring tension and now the belt I have tried to talk to recreatives and they sent me a new belt but its still the same its going back to the dealer wednesday. |
liflod
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Username: Liflod
Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 151.201.211.103
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:37 pm: |
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The transmission does not slip due to spring tension. The transmission will slip if you do not push forward on the laterals . Are you sure your belt is slipping or are you relying on the springs to engage the transmission bands ? |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 377
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.203.218
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:39 pm: |
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I would want two new clutches and a new belt put on. It is hard to diagnose the problem on line ( for us on the discussion board) but since it is under warranty the problem should be corrected at the dealer or factory level. The best thing I would do is just replace the clutches and belt.
Where do you live? |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 378
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.203.218
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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liflod has a very good point, you are pushing forward on the control sticks right?
If you don't that will slip the transmission, and it is supposed to do that. I assume you know that and have been driving it that way.
Another thing I could think of is the center from the crank to the transmission input shaft is off a little.
And is it fully engaged into forward? The Max IV linkage is a little convoluted and sometimes it is difficult to get into gear fully.
Does the dealer drive it when you drop it off? |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 234
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.208.194.86
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 08:43 pm: |
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Tom, I have a 3 year old Max IV with a 25 horse engine. I go to many rides with other machines here in Canada and in New York and Ohio etc. I can hear the desperation in your messages and would like to help. Beleive me when you get your problem fixed a Max IV with 23 horsepower will not have trouble climbing any hill because of a slipping clutch. It sounds too simple but try Shoving those sticks foreward and holding them there while you're climbing, that may be the trouble as Liflod says. I rolled mine over a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to push a red cedar tree over,the max climbed up it and rolled over. Nobody hurt ,lots of witnesses, just embarrassing. There is a solution, good luck. W. Philip Cox |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 196
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.166.168.53
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 12:24 am: |
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Tom, Please reread my last private email to you on this subject and let me/us know what the results are. I still think a trip to the factory would be well worth your while. |
Tom Danis
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Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 72.224.192.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 07:38 am: |
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Well I haver made another appointment with a dealer near me he thinks it could be the secondary clutch I do have a small amount of lateral movement on the clutch side of the tranny that I told him about.When I go up hills I do push forward on the sticks just in case but it is the belt I have ran it with someone in back to watch just what is going on right now there is no way my max would climb a tree. |
Tom Danis
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Username: Joe1999
Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 72.224.192.100
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 01:58 pm: |
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Well took it back to the dealer and he took one look at it and said my belt was too loose for one thing and my secondary clutch spring was too weak just sitting without it running my belt was not riding on top of the converter like it should he also said they offer different size springs for different power ranges so we will see what happens. |
Missouri's Max and Argo Dealer
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Username: Brandon_price
Post Number: 150
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 69.27.205.81
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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Tom it sounds like the trans clutch was not assembled correctly by that manufacturer. The spring is probably either broken or not wound to the right tension. RI might just exchange your clutch with a new one. Use the factory spring and belt. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 402
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 70.106.195.27
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 08:51 am: |
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Does anyone have problems with the belt due to cold weather?
I've had a couple of machines come in this week with the owner complaining of poor performance and lack of pulling power and ability to get up to speed.
In both cases there is an original belt on a machine that is 4 or 5 years old. They said they didn't have a problem in the summer but since it has gotten cold they have lost power.
I did check the belts an they are close to .040 thinner than a new belt.
Another interesting thing is both machines had the idle rpm too fast and they both had zero gauge pressure in the tires. |
philip w.cox
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Username: Philipatmaxfour
Post Number: 241
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 216.208.194.52
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 05:57 pm: |
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Interesting Jerry but I,m on my second belt and it squeals if it gets wet but cold weather has not had any effect that I've noticed. When I had my idle set too fast on my then new machine I had unwanted vehicle creep that I thought may have contributed to that belts shorter life. If you learn anything , let us know. W.Philip |
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