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Mike Maroni
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Username: Micmac
Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 162.84.74.132
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 03:18 pm: | 
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I just thinking while I have my machine apart would there be any benifit in taking the hollow axles to a machine shop and have them fill in the axles? Would this be more expensive than just buying solid axles? Has anyone done this if so what ahave been the result? |
A. Rowlands (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 208.181.162.20
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 05:51 pm: |
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Just what would you fill them with? If you have a shop turn down standard size shaft and press them into old tube axles it would be costly.Probably better to just get new made from solid stock or try Richard from this site. |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer
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Username: Fred4dot
Post Number: 108
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 02:35 am: |
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Mike, Home made solids are probably cheaper than buying new. Talk to the welding shop about sliding a solid piece inside the pipe and then welding a two inch (maybe 2.5 inch) triangle (5 of them) between each lug bolt from the flange to the axle. I'm not positive, but I think it is one inch inside the hollow axle. I'll try to check these dimensions tomorrow.
Again, I'm not positive, but I think the home made solids might be superior to the real thing because you get the flex of the hollow and the rigidity of the solid all in one piece. The triangle supports fix the weakest part of a hollow axle which is the flanges coming loose from the axle (unless they new hollows are different from the old hollows - actually I haven't seen a hollow axle since a 1994 model year). What year is the Max IV you are working on?
Personally, I would wait until (or if) I had a problem with the hollow axles and if I bent or broke one, I would then get it made into a solid. Many people never have a problem with the pipe axles and some have problems with the solids (go figure). The solids definitely hold up to more abuse than the hollows, but even the solids can be bent or broken. |
david berger
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Post Number: 216
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 172.145.207.113
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 09:35 am: |
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your local machine shop would tell you the metals not the costly thing, it is there time, and just makeing a new axel from the solid stock,cuting your tube axel hub off for your new axel and the triangle gusets of coarse taks less time than fitting the holow axles with exact fit rods, you can do that yourself though, i think 3/4 rod will fit in it, but then you need the hole for the drive bolt, unless the rods only long enoph to fit from the bolt hole to the hub, wich is where axels bend right?
i got mine made for $75.00 a pair at my local machine shop, then i started haveing them do mods to lenth and deep bushing pokets and also had them put grease fitting in the bushing poket,(needs to be removed when takeing axel out or instaling the axel, and reinstaled into axel when it is home, alowes the bushing to be refreshed from the inside out with new greas when ever you beleave you may have contaminated your greas, = like inside hull got 1/2 full of water somehow)
thes mods let my axels live longer but best thing to do is install inner bearings,
with the extra mods i pay$100.00 a pair for my axels at local machine shop. |
Mike Maroni
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Username: Micmac
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 209.76.192.5
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 10:50 am: |
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Fred,
The machine I'm working on is a 92 max iv. I started by wanting to replace the bearings but as I got the machine apart I figured with winter coming I would just restify (word I picked up from my jeepn' days restore/modify = restify)the machine. So I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done and what doesn't. I'll take them to my local machine shop / welder and see what they say.
David,
My machine already has inner bearings. I'm not sure if they were changed at some point but they're not bushings.
By the way you guys are awsome to contribute to this board as much as you do! I'm sure I'll have alot more questions as this project goes on.
Mike |
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