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RICHARD
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone know the stock location for the bilige pump on a magnum 8x8, model v890-23
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My bilge is in the front of the argo to the left of the engine mount- their is a raised part that sits a bit higher than the top of the chain trough. Its in front of the left idler chain almost in the middle of engine mount.
I hate it in that place because it doesn't get all the water out if it has water in it.
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fred sain arkansas dealer (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Guy,s, the factory location is as described by unregistered guest. I have tryed to find a bilge pump that the inlet and the outlet have ends for hose attachment. I have had no luck!
Anyone know where they can be found??
With a hose on the end, you could attach the hose to the frame, and put the end at your lowest point.
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Tom Phillips
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Hey Fred: You are a hard guy to send an e-mail to. I've tried a number of times to e-mail you about your camo Avenger and I keep getting back undeliverable mail. Your web site shows sainsagro@realatv.com is this correct?? Thanks,Tom
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fred sain Arkansas Dealer (Unregistered Guest)
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Tom, try fsain@rectorarkansas.com, we have more than one e-mail. Sorry, the Camo Avenger has been sold, have one pre-owned Avenger left,(green)
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Dave Keeso
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That unregistered guest was me, forgot to add in my name and e-mail though. I had another look at the bilge location in my ARGO today while I was up north- I never realized just how much water their can still be that the bilge would never suck up because its too damb high from the bottom. Would their be room in front of the first drive chain to mount the bilge there instead?
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Dave Keeso
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Hey Fred, what about one of those garden pond pumps, they have tubing on them to suck in water and push it out, much smaller than a bilge, but could still be used as one and run off the battery or on a switch. Just an idea for ya if you havn't already thought of it.
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fred sain Ark. Argo (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dave, I have not looked at those pumps, but I will. Thanks for the thought.
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Bigswill
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Both Harbor freight & northern Hyd. have 12 Volt Pumps with a hose connection on both ends, see their catalogs for the specs, cost about $50.00
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Dave Johnston (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bilge pump should be located at the lowest point of the vehicle when in water, fully loaded.. If you drive into a lake and it sits with LEFT FRONT down, that is where the bilge pump should have its intake. A good plan is to put in a bilge pump and BEFORE you drive into the water, turn it on. If you get into the water and it immediately starts pumping out, you know you have a leak and can get out before you sink. I usually drive into the water until I start floating, then stop and wait to see what the pump does. If no water comes out, I know I am water tight and can continue across the lake or river. But if you plan on going into water, you must have a bilge pump, just for peace of mind.
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david berger
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

uuummm, dave j,
only problem with this builge pump advice is that you cannot count on a builge pump just starting to pump like that,
it is entirely concevable that you could take on a foot or more without a running pump actualy starting to pump water at all,
sometimes they need a little help getting started.
there are even specks for them that list the "head" or how much water must be available so it will already be able to prime it'self and start.
often i have had to turn mine off and on several times quickly to get it primed befor it would pump out the hull,
makes for some frayed nerves when your out a ways from a shoreline and builge dosent start on first try.
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Philip Croff
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My Amphicat doesn't have a bilge pump yet but I think I'll add a manually operated one. Not much water to remove anyway and would be good in case battery power is lost.

The garden pond pumps would be complicated because they're normally 120v AC. Would need an inverter on board.
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Dave Johnston (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dave B. Don't know how your pump works. Mine starts making slurpping noises if there is any water in the bottom. (I tested it with a gallon of water)
Priming pumps is a problem with those that use a piston type action such as the old hand pumps seen on farms but with centrifical (sp?) pumps priming is not required as they can pump air as well as water.
I have found it to be pretty reliable. But you are right, when in doubt about the hull, stay out of the water.
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Rogersmith
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I have a tiny 12volt "shop vac" that'll suck water. Thought about letting it suck the hull dry, and setting the bilge pump in the bottom of the shop vac..

the vac would be a little bulky..
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Dave J. (Unregistered Guest)
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WATER...I took my Argo Conquest out on the BOCO RESEVOIR this past week...Used a 6 HP outboard. Everytime I turned on the bilge pump I got a little water out, but nothing to worry about. I went around the perimeter of the lake as well as cut across the middle a couple of times. AFTER the ride and I got home, my floor was FULL of water. I do not mean just a LITTLE water, I mean 3 inches. When I pulled the floor covers out, the bottom was full of water... I do not know why the bilge pump did not pump out more, but I am NOT going into the water until I figure it out. (( Could it be the 3 foot waves from the speed boats washing into the sides of the engine compartment?)) When I figure out where the water came from, I will let you know. However, it is nice to know I can take on 3 inches of water and have no noticible detriment in my flotation capabilities.
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david berger
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A BUILGE PUMP THAT DOSENT PRIME CORECTLY MAY ONLY DRIBBLE, POSABLY TOYING WITH THE SWITCH A FEW TIMES WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE STRONGER STREEM TO COME OUT.
IT IS THIS WAY MOST TIMES I USE MINE.
MINE ALSO IS 1/4 TURN MOUNTED SO I CAN REMOVE IT WITH A 1/4 TURN AND CLEAN OUT ANY DEBRIES THAT MIGHT COLECT INSIDE IT, AND THEN ATACH TO MOUNTING AGAIN WITH COUNTER 1/4 TURN,
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fred sain Arkansas Argo dealer (Unregistered Guest)
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Dave, All of the Argo,s have a channel in the bottom for the chains to run in, the channel will hold quite a bit of water that the bilge pump will not get out, unless you get the left front of the Argo down a little. I keep looking for a bilge pump that has a way to connect a hose to the inlet and the outlet.
ANYONE know where to find!!!!!!!!
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Carl Duhon
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Dave J.

I just got a new Argo Conquest and want to put an outboard motor on it. I have the metal rack that is not center mounted for the outboard to sit on. Is a 6 hp big enough and do you have a long shaft? I have heard that you should get an outboard with a long shaft? Any input on what outboard to get would be appreciated.
Carl Duhon
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fred sain Arkansas argo dealer (Unregistered Guest)
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Carl, it will take a long shaft to run properly. Most of the short shafts will not sit deep enough in the water.

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