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Dave Walsh (Argborg)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi,
How can you tell when the Argo Conquest chains have reached their service life and need replacing??

thanks
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Attex Bob

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Dave, this is how I do it. There is a link count from the factory for your conquest. If your adjusters are at the end of their adjustment, and no one has taken a link out, your done, time for new chains.
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Dave Walsh (Argborg)

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Thanks Bob,
What about the front two with no adjusters?? It also looks like the adjusters clamp the chain and cause them to touch the frame. I guess this is an indication that it is time to change them as well hey??
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David Keeso (Argomag)

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Dave Walsh, That is where you may be slightly mistaken. I thought the same thing. The chains will look like they rub the frame, but if you watch them while under power, they do not come close to running on the frame. The front chains, they may rub a little eventually, but they again, won't much under power.

Question for anyone to answer-- If you aren't supposed to remove links from a stretched chain, then why can you adjust the idler chains by moving the power pack to stretch them out again. WOuldn't this cause a potential break?
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Attex Bob

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David, all chains stretch. They start to stretch on the first turn they make. It is up to the engineers to determine how much stretch they can have before replacing. The longer the chain the more stretch is exceptible. In other words, if each link stretches .005 of an inch, the more links you have the longer the take-up slot can be.If you take a link out of the chain you are fooling the take-up slot so to speak. Then the chain tries to climb up on each tooth instead of indexing like it should.

In other words, when the take-up slot is gone it is time to replace the chain. Have I cheated, you bet, but not a good thing to do.

Dave: I can't answer that because mine is an older unit and it does not have that kind of adjuster. I don't want to give you bad info on something I don't know about. In general, if the adjusters are all taken up, time to replace the chains.
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mike martindale (Wetsu)

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if you remove links they ride "on" the tooth instead of in the valley and will cup the tooth.which you will end up replacing sprockets as well as chains.and these ain't cheap,or fun to replace.if your front chains are lose,top or bottom with a load on........they are stretched,and they need replaced.i would also recommend buying your chain in bulk,it is cheaper that way.
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Dave Walsh (Argborg)

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Thank you all for your replies. You all helped alot!!

Can anyoone list some good chain manufactures??
I heard Dimand was the best?
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mike martindale (Wetsu)

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i don't know if they are the "BEST" but they are darn good.but they are pricey. i found a place in kansas,city that sells 50 rc for $9.00 a ft.every place else it was 25.00 a ft.i'll look for the name of the place and post it later if your interested.
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Dave Walsh (Argborg)

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Awsome!
thanks
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argoguru

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shoup manufacturing in kankakee illinois..
18006276137
buy the american made chain, it cost more
but the jap and tiawan stuff is junk, dont waist your money.
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Mark

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Has anyone tried the chain available at Tractor Supply Co.? Is this worth using?

Thanks,
Mark
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Eric

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I have used it in machines without any problems since about 1994. I used it in machines with 484cc engines. Keep the chain clean, well lubricated and properly adjusted always and you'll be fine.
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schunn

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Another chain question:

I have an attex chief. My front wheel chain adjusters appear to be almost adjusted to the limits. How can I determine the proper length or the correct number of links for the replacement chain, which will be bought in bulk and cut to the proper length.

I don't recall seeing this information in the attex manual.

Does anybody know?

Thanks

Steve
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David Keeso (Argomag)

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Count them! Remove the chain by taking the little clip off and then the outside link off and remove master link, and remove from sprockets and its free.
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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steve i think it's saposed to be 100 links, however i could be wrong, also beleave it or not your chain go's under the ideler sprokett,
i see alot of them above the sproket wich tends to make a hole in floorboards,
if you lye the chain out on the ground and push the links together, mark the lenth and then hold one end and spred them apart till you get to the other end , se how much it streched, if over an inch to the 100 or so links it's too far gone too use,
roughfly speeking
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schunn

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Hey Dave:

I don have no idler sprocket on front chain drive. It has one of those ultra high molecular weight polyethylene rubbing block (custom made) that pushes up below the bottom run of chain to take out the slack. I wish I could find a good gear idler type set up. Maybe later.

Steve
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schunn

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Argoman--

I culd probalby count them ok, but I don know how much links its sposed to have.

Steve

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