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r smith
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
im a duck hunter and was wondering if 6x6's could travel over reeds and cattails, the water isnt 4" deepbut the reeds are so thick you cant walk trrough them any help would be appreciated thanks |
walleye713
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
i have an argo conquest and use it for duck hunting. vegitation is no problem but mud requires tracks. i use super tracks and it carries 3 guys and a load over almost anything with tracks.
steve |
tim O'K
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
I get stuck in swamps almost everyday and Im paralyzed! Thank god for the winch! |
diggs
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
How do you use a winch in the middle of a swamp? do you have to carry a deadman or something? What do you anchor to? thanks. |
jerry smith (Deerhunter)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Diggs I have seen a "v" shaped anchor on the net that they make to use for jeeps and atv,s when stuck in the mud,sand or snow. search some off road stuff on the net I,am sure you will find it. good luck Jerry |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Take a steak or something long that you can drive into the ground. When you put it in the ground deep enough, it provides a point to hook the winch to. Then you can pull yourself out. Then, if you need to , move the steak further and rehook up the winch until you are out. |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
tim okeefe forgot too tell you about his realy neet grapleing hook, tell him tim! better yet
e- tim okeefe for the details!
i think his new e-dress is danboy99@aol.com |
jerry smith (Deerhunter)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Diggs I have done the leg work for you the anchor I have seen on the net is called a pull-pal and it is not cheap but you can take a look at it and maybe have one made up at half the cost. Jerry |
P.J.
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Diggs: The item you are looking for is called a DANFORTH ANCHOR. It is a hinged anchor with 2 pointed blades that will dig in and give you an anchor point. They are not expensive and most marine supply stores carry them.
P.J. |
diggs
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
thanks all for the suggestions! now...time to go get stuck! |
Wiloway
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
I have a Max IV with 26" tires. I just got it and do not have a winch yet. Can some one tell me if the Max can handle deep mud ? I have a 4 wheel drive quad and was wondering if the Max can out perform it in the mud.
Thanks for help
Wiloway |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Wiloway,
Yes your Max IV with 26" tires will out perform your quad. Just remember there is a learning curve for the AATV's and at first, you might not be able to do the same stuff that you can on the quad, but after learning how to drive the max in mud, it will go places that your quad would never go. Most of the time if you get stuck, it will be driver error, not the max, but like anything, a max can and will get stuck from time to time. You really need a winch if you plan on doing some deep mud riding. Hope this helps you out. Good luck. |
Pete
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Don't spend the money on an expensive anchor, get a mobile home screw in anchor, cost about 5bucks can screw in and out no problem, lite weight ,will hold any strong enought for any six wheeler |
wiloway
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Thanks Hustler for the info. I did take it into a really swampy area. It had about 6' of water with green moss over the water. I was really nervous about taking it in there fearing it would bottom out immeidatly to my suprize it made it through. I just kept moving and it made it to the bank on the otherside. I have a Quad with 27" gator tires on it and it cannot make it more then ten feet in this area without getting stuck, way to go Max ! Do you know if I can put GBC Gator tires on my Max in 26" size ? These are some awsome mud tires and I love the looks of them.
Thanks Wiloway |
dukhntr
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Wiloway,
I have experience with the Gator tires. You are correct they are and awesome Mud tire!!! I do a lot of duck hunting, and last year put a set of these on my Max. Early on I loved them, but soon realized that I had lost a lot of my water speed. Finally after a comparison to a friends Max. If you are wanting to run them in just mud and bog, they may be the tire for you, but you will give up water speed. I am pulling the Gators off this week, and going back to the original 26" tread. If you have any questions feel free to email me. |
jeff golightly
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Does anyone know what would be the best tire to get for an old hustler if I might be thinking about tracks later. I will be riding in swamp that could hold as much as two feet of water, with vegetation consisting of cattails and smart weed. |
Andy Felegara
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
I run a Max II with 22" goodyear rawhides. From
riding with other people they seem to be the best
all around. Gators are slow in the water but great
in mud. The one draw-back is that with the max I
have to switch to 21" to run tracks. The 21"s are
no where near as agressive as the 22's. If speed
in water is not an issue you could look into the
Gators or even the Spider Tracks by Interco. |
wiloway
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
I just wathced one of John Schwabs videos at Humphrey. It is a great video and recommend it to anyone. I can't figure out why so many people can't operate there machine right in mud. I am speaking of Max not Argo, I don't have an Argo so I can't speak on them. I see people taking a straight shot through a mud bog and pulling back and forth on the sticks. What is there problem? On a Max if you pull one of the sticks you then just have 3 wheel drive. If you are going straight take two fingers sqeeze the throttle and don't touch the sticks. This will give you tru six wheel drive. Unless you are turning why would you want to pull back and forth on the sticks and loose your traction. I simply can't figure this out. Maybe someone could give me a reason why people do this. |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
IT'S SIMPLE REALY(6X6 ANSER)
IFF THE PILOT FEALS THERE GETTING SLOWED DOWN IN A RUT MANY WILL TRY TO GET OUT OF RUT AND CRISS CROSS THEM,
THIS REQUIRES ATEMPTED TURN, I AGREE THERS ONLY THREE WHEELS LEFT AT THAT POINT BUT ALL IS LOST IF THERE IN A RUT AND LOOSING MOMENTOM ANY WAY,
THATS EXACTLY WHY I PUT UP THE BIG STINK ABOUT TRANYS!
THERE ARE SOME YOU CAN STEAR A LITTLE LEFT OR RIGHT WHILE STILL APLYING SOME POWER TO THE SLOWER WHEELS,
NOW THATS ALOT CLOASER TO TRUE SIX WHEELE DRIVE RIGHT |
John Schwab (Johnschwab)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Wiloway- I am glad that you are enjoying the video.
When I got my Max less than two years ago I noticed that I had the same tendency to pull back on the sticks when they really should have been full forward. Just a reflex action I guess. Fred said earlier that he observed a lot of novices rowing the sticks, but I have seen veteran drivers do it also. I learned quick that keeping the sticks full forward and applying full throttle was the best way to get through tough stuff, let the machine do the work it was designed to do. Despite what has been said earlier about whether or not you can "feather" a T20, I feel that I can do it quite well, making minor course changes without jerking the sticks excessively. |
wiloway
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
John I guess your right it must be a common reflex to row the sticks when you get in the deep stuff. I too have found myself begin to do it, and that is why like I said above I let go of the one stick and just squeeze the throttle with two fingers and let her go. |
BMoreland
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Hello everyone,
I just got my first aatv today...a Bigfoot. I was wondering if, when I am on the lake fishing next summer and want to get out into some of the lilly pad fields, the weeds and stuff will wrap around the wheels and leave me stranded. Any comments welcome. |
Chris M. (Argomaster9000)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
BMoreland,
I've had some experiences with going through some "bog islands" in a swampy part of a lake. Let me tell you that my Conquest managed to cross the entire lake (not very big), climb ONTO the floating mud island and even sink the entire island with it's own weight! HEHE! Man that was a ton of fun.
After we got out and came home a day later, I cleaned the Argo and found A LOT of weeds and tall grass wrapped around the axles/wheels. They are a little difficult to pull out because of the way the axles are hidden behind the wheels, but I took a sharp carpenter's knife and managed to cut all the weeds off (being very careful around the tires of course). When I moved the Argo, I could SWEAR that I took half the swamp with me! HAHA!
BMoreland, from what I've learned is this... You may get a lot of stuff stuck on the axle/tires but since it can't grab onto anything, your tires will never actually get stuck. Get it? Just cut all that garbage off when you get home at the end of the day to keep it clean.
Enjoy your new Bigfoot! |
BMoreland
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
Thanks fer the comback on the weed deal. I took my first ride today with mixed results. I got stuck in some deep mud, I got some air,I knocked down a tree, broke my windshield,and had a hell of a good time with my grandson on his quad chasing him around the woods.
The biggest problem I have with the Bigfoot is that the engine bogs sometimes when I shift from forward to reverse and vice versa and the throttle has an annoying lag about half the time. My question is is there something out of adjustment or is this something I'm gonna just have to get used to? Here in SE Mass it was snowing a heavy wet snow all day and I wuz wondering if the performance thing might have had to do with the wet weather and conditions.
All in all, it was a great day and I can't wait for some summer weather. Thanksgiving will be spent doing the first oil change and whatever other stuff is supposed to happen after the first 8 hours on the meter.
Any comments on the throttle lag thing are most welcome. Have a good holiday everyone |
david berger (Davidrrrd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
HEY B MORELAND DUDE, DID YOU SAY SOUTH EASTERN MASS??
HEY THATS WAY TOO CLOASE BY NOT TO GET TOGETHER FOR RIDES FROM TIME TOO TIME DUDE,
IM IN FRANKLIN,
AND THERS TIM SCHOTANIS IN WITINSVILL,
SOME OTHERS IN ROAD ISLAND TOO,
WE ALL NEED TO FIND A PLACE TO GET TOGETHER FER RIDES!
HELL IF YOUR NOT DOPIN ANYTHING THE WEEKEND OF DEC.7TH & 8TH WHY NOT JOIN US ON AN AATV ADVENTURE DOWN IN TOWER CITY PA.?
DAVID BERGER
DAVES ATV VIDEOS |
Chris M. (Argomaster9000)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
BMoreland, with the mud, almost every AATV will get stuck someplace or another. All I can say is you may just need a little more experience. If you've driven a quad then you'll know what a big difference there is between those and 6x6/8x8's. So just practice. Same thing goes for log hopping. People complain of getting stuck on the same set of logs that they just witnessed someone else go over without any problems. It's all how you handle the machine.
As for the tree, HAHA! Good job... That'll teach them to grow anywhere they want! Sorry to hear about your windsheild though. My dad made a custom windshield for our Argo made up of 100% plexi sheet, which is most resistant to breaking than regular glass. Maybe that might be something for you to consider.
The gear issue, I don't know about that one. It's funny but my transmission is a little strange too. I sometimes get the classic "grinding" noise when switching between high and low gear, but no problems going into/out of neutral/reverse. What I have to do is shift into neutral first, THEN into the gear I want. It's getting a little better though now the more we use the Argo. One more thing... Is your Argo new or used? Ours had like 35-40 hours on it when we bought it and we still have to work it in. Although it's working much more smoothly now than before. So that's one thing that may be an issue, an engine that needs to be worked in.
If it's used and worked in, then I'm not sure what exactly the problem could be. Your throttle cables might be sticking somewhere perhaps. A little WD-40 into the cable sheilding may help out (or someting similar). I'm NOT an engine expert here, but you may want to clean the spark plug? Or perhaps a little fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank may help performance? Not sure here buddy. You may want to wait for someone else to reply before trying any of these things because I'm only recommending things that I know help my car (not my Argo). |
Mud Man ( - 65.1.62.232)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm: | |
I have tryed to cross a swamp about 5 feet deep behind my house.It has so much lillypads and swamp weeds that when I try to go threw it it just stops me all together from going anywheres does any one have any know how I can get threw it? I have tryed to cut it but that did not work. |
G ( - 65.1.62.232)
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hello |
Dave Keeso
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:49 pm: | |
While its not exatly swamp crossing, I recently had a chance to try something I wouldn't have thought about doing generally. I have a fairly narrow river that flows out from the bay and into a field and one day while riding along the bank, I decided to plunk the ARGO into the river thinking I would still be able to control it while going down. Before i was even fully in the water, the front was turning to go down, and then i realized (after going too far and not being able to back up) that i had to ride this one out for a while, and much to my surprise, it was actually a hell of a lot of fun just slowly turning round and round in the river in the argo. Has anyone ever used their argo in rivers while just letting it float down? I found the hardest part was keeping the ARGO from wacking the river bank in places where their was rock. Their is also the threat of hitting something under the water and it turning over, I did hit a couple hidden rocks but the ARGO bounced back and kept moving. I got it out just in time too, the river sped up at the end where it empties into the bay. |
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