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dave perkins

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

trying to pull watercraft out of lake with trailer. the max wont do it . should the tires spin or should it bogg down.if i chain max to a tree should the tires eventually break loose? mine will just bogg at full throttle is this normal.oh ya watercraft and trailer weighs 800 lbs
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Attex Bob

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

Yes; yes and no.

Should be a piece of cake for your Max to pull your watercraft out. Sounds like a clutch problem to me. Could be an engine problem also. If you discribe it better someone will be able to help.
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Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

Dave, You don't give us much info to go on, but you have something wrong - even the 14 hp model should drag 800 lbs. 1st off, make sure you have the levers all the way forward - the bands need to be fully engaged to pull a heavy load.

Next, check your spark plugs (the Briggs is so well balanced, it will idle just fine on one cylinder, but no power). Check your oil level, if it is overfull (from gas not burning and going into the crankcase), that is a dead giveaway of a bad plug (be sure to change it after you change plugs because oil diluted with gasoline does not give much lubrication).

On a 2000, it shouldn't be a problem, but the nylon sliders on the driven pulley can get gunked up and not move - just a dab of lubricant will solve that problem.

I have said it so many times that I just assume everybody is using belt dressing on their drive belt, but if not, get some liquid stuff (from NAPA or any other parts supply store) and put it on both edges of your drive belt with your finger (if you use the spray stuff, take the belt off first because you will make a terrible mess inside and possibly get it in your starter making the engage gear stick). Belt dressing will ensure top performance and make your belt last much longer.
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Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

Dave,
The Max will be able to do that with no problems. If yours can't, then you might have a problem. Maybe you don't have the levers all the way forward. Your belt might be slipping a little. Another problem might just be with the engine. You might have a plug fouled out. My brother has a max II and pulls his 26' pontoon boat w/90hp out of his lake with no problems.
It weighs much more then 800#'s, close to 3000#'s or more.
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jessie

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

i got a attex an i just put a branknew brigs van guard in it 18hp an i rebuilt my trany an i dont think its got enuff power cuzz going up a 75 degee hill with 2 people it bogs donw an some times it goes up it. is this right? i dont thik its right cuzz max say thay can pull a 1000 pounds an that meens it will pill out an i can chain mine 2 a tree an it doesint pill out can this be the motor?? plzzz help i want more low end way more power on the low end
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barryhh3f

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

Less take this one step a time. You do realize that 75 degrees is only 15 degrees from being strait up, don’t you? Have you thought of using a winch for that last 15 degrees? When you pulled the 2 stroke out (assuming it was an original 2 stroke), did you change the clutch. When I specked out a conversion kit for my RIM to a B&S, RI stated right up front the clutch for the old Chaparral was not geared right for the B&S. It sound like you have a gearing problem. Then again if you can get traction to get up a 75 degree slope it sounds like you have plenty of low end power.
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

izzy that 75 degree hill thing, what did you mesure it with? a 35*hill will scair folks,45* is gas tank kissing steap, 75* and your vehicle would free fall to base of this hill wheels up.
most of the info above seams like the right place to start in your serch of problem, id first check to see your pushing hard on your laterels(levers to some)because your attex is a real man's aatv and dose not have sisy springs to aid in forward band engagement.
next as you have adapted that engine into yours it's posable you don't have belt tention corect,
with engine cover open conect it up to that tree and see what is and isent hapening inside there, should show you if belts not turning or ifit's delivering tork to input shaft in your trany and somethings wrong inside, like maybe not adjusted bands, ect..ect..or not engaged laterels, or maybe you will find the tork converters ok and engine is in fact boging, just as in above suggestions look into wether your engines running on both cylinders, mine's got another type of engine entirely but some times i only have 1 cilender fireing and it's not aperent right away, i can drive mine with only 1 cilender but it canot do anything, so now it's up to you, tell us what you come up with ok?
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jessiebritton (Attexpimpin)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

yea ok i did a degree on tha hill today an is 62 degres an its still steep i think but still i need way more help cuzz this is its dill the belt spins on the knew pulley i got from richers at route 6x6 byt any ways i think its maxed out cuzz its spin on the motor an i tightend the belt tight an it helpad but still if i chain it up 2 a tree it wont spin the whels it doesint spin the T20 it spins on the motor an its got way enuff power but help me out plezz
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masteratver

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

jessie

old attex machine were geared pretty high, for speed and performance, you will most likley have to reduce overall gearing, if you want to spin
when tied to tree. why would you want to tie to tree???

ATVER
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david berger (Davidrrrd)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

he tide it to a tree to simulate a load so he could wach the iner workings without fear of crashing or running himself over,now it's a scairy thing i know but starting under a load such as this you may need to have the torck converter running, you may need the engine reved at least at a part throtle when you stab them laterels forward,
yes this is a little dangerous, more so for poor drive chain, trany will hold up to this , i did it for years with my 38hpmax and attex machines,
he might have a slight mismach between the 4 stroke engin cluch and 2 stroke transmition pully,
but this small rev idea might get it going from the stop,the attex are indeed geareed for speed!
and this is a diferent motor, it can be done though , i know someone who had one with the briggs in it and his dose the wheelys easy,
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jessiebritton (Attexpimpin)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   

well ask him wut all he had 2 do 2 get all the power 2 his cuzz i need more low end way more it wood be nice 2 huck up on 2 a 4x4 4wheler an pull the shit out of it mine does but its not ezey but it will pull it but plzz find out some stuu an the pulley on the motor is made 4 the vanguard i got it from richeard an the puley on the trany is stock an it had a 440 jlo in it so maybe thats y it doesint do it !!! any help wood be nice plzzz

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