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Don Kinyon (Oldnatva)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:56 pm: | 
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When did the NATVA fold, and why? Anybody know?
Don |
Marc Stobinski
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Username: Jerseybigfoot
Post Number: 49
Registered: 06-2000
Posted From: 68.193.116.132
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 06:42 pm: |
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Here is one of few photos from 1970,
Notice the Scrambler with horns(front engine?) |
Rob Sandera
Intermediate Member
Username: Rob_sandera
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 4.91.131.103
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 10:26 pm: |
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I think the money just dried up. From what I heard manufactures told me the Japanese killed the entire six-wheeler industry starting with their ATC 90 and on. Also I gather the insurance to race is unbelievable and we basically have no insurance organization left for 6 wheelers like other organizations have.. That's one reason I try to promote the sport because if we had more selection of machines or better machines so people would spend the money on them at some point their would be enough people to have our own insurance pool etc. Just to give you an example I used to fly radio control planes. You join the ama (American model association) and are at an event you are insured etc if you kill somebody in a crash etc. and It seemed like the ins was like 3 bucks to join.
I think there was also more. I remember about 1971 stopping at a gas station every weekend on the way to this place and gas was .23 cents a gallon. I think my Dad's wages as a patternmaker were about 8.50 hr then. The camping and sportsman's industry was huge. Some where around 1980 I think people really got disinterested. And I think its much the same as what has happened now People wages were not inline with inflated energy prices. Then when Attex seemed to be the last to market Firestone Floatation tires and the tires were gone it hurt us all. The ATC 90 may have also brought allot of lawsuits against floatation tires.
The track in Ashtabula Ohio is still raced with 4 wheelers. I've discussed it before with Bud Fisher etc. The cost to put on a bunch of races ins wise is not that much more then the initial race but you have to have interest to support it all and in today's busy world things become a headache real fast. I think it basically came down to money, you can have a 4 wheeler ins group to sponsor races and pack the stands and have good turnout you make money can afford to advertise on the radio etc. And as far as cooperate sponsors you got Argo and Max that's not many compared to before. Cool Pictures Marc I'd be interested in hearing your front engine scrambler stories. |
Marc Stobinski
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Username: Jerseybigfoot
Post Number: 50
Registered: 06-2000
Posted From: 68.193.116.132
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 09:32 am: |
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Another Atlantic City NATVA race photo. |
Jon Hoath
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Username: Jwacker
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 04:54 pm: |
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I am hearing the races at ashtabula are back on over memorial day weekend. Any truth to that? J-WHACKER racing will be their in a hustler in the 4 stroke class if it is on. If it is, better word needs to get out. cool pics marc, looking for a scrambler for a 800cc artic cat motor for the 4 stroke class. coolest looking machine ever built. |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 78
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 08:04 pm: |
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Ashtabula is a go for Friday/Saturday/Sunday Memorial weekend. I think the classes will depend on how many people show up and with what machines they show up with. It's gonna be a blast! |
Bob Eells
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Username: Reells
Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 10:14 pm: |
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Hey Jon,
Long time since I talked to you. How you been doing? |
L.A. Philip Osborn
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Username: Roadwolf
Post Number: 184
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 02:42 pm: |
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You to Don nice to hear from you again, all us guys have been doing ok, except Budda who has just has surgery, he is now doing well
Hope you have been ok too Don
Phillip Osborn LA |
robert longfellow
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Username: Maxinout
Post Number: 32
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 11:00 am: |
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Hope you have a good turn out, you should post it on the event page, so we would all know about it. |
Jon Hoath
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Username: Jwacker
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 08:02 pm: |
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doing good bob. daughter number three last october, sold the frontier and am now working on a total restoration of a hustler. you going to the race? Jon |
Bob Eells
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Username: Reells
Post Number: 19
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 09:43 pm: |
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I am undecided about that. Might go. I used to go to a couple of races back in the 70's. Ran a stock ATTEX with a 340cc. You guys's planning any Haspin runs? I looked at the Haspin ride last March and that had to brutal but fun. Are you going to the Ledges? |
Brad Dunn
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Username: Lazerman
Post Number: 27
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 04:07 pm: |
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I would like to go, can you guys give me more information. What is going on what days, How amny 6x6ers are you expecting? Brad |
Jon Hoath
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Username: Jwacker
Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 09:10 pm: |
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bob,
As of now Im going to the ledges. the price is getting out of control, so that might change. depends on how memorial day turns out. im thinking maybe the badlands or haspin in july instead of the ledges, not sure. I will let you now either way. the snow on the spring ride a year ago didn't seem real, but man it was fun and also cold. haspin with a foot of snow is a deadly place to say the very least. the night ride was quite the adveture. |
Bryan Jaedike
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Username: Tigerguy
Post Number: 45
Registered: 02-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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I guess these guys only want their group, no one who is doing the ride has spoken up or bothered the reply to my email, I have sent two. Maybe since I am not a racer they are not interested
Bryan |
Bob Eells
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Username: Reells
Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 07:13 pm: |
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Bryan
Not sure who your talking about or which event you have in mind. Not sure if your even talking about me. If your inquiring about The Ledges ride that is July 23-26 2009. in Garrettsville, Ohio. The contact person for this is Leo @ Leo's all season vehicles. PH.# 440-285-1730. The other event is a race and sorry I don't have details on this. I think there is info on somewhere in this forum. Hope this helps you |
Lance Sammer
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Username: Cragen
Post Number: 41
Registered: 08-1997
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:31 pm: |
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I would like to know about all the rides, I see the racing one posted in the show section, but I am not into racing just want to have fun trail riding |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 131
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 08:03 pm: |
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I see the posting about the May ride, anyone interested. It would be great to meet some of the guys
How about Bullwinkle?
Jeff Bar |
Brad Dunn
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Username: Lazerman
Post Number: 32
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:59 pm: |
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I may try to make the ohio ride, but it seems only like racing to me, I bet it would be cool to watch but not for me. I just want to trail ride Brad |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 134
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:59 pm: |
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Looks like the "ride" is just racing, I will not be going.
Jeff Bar |
Brad Dunn
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Username: Lazerman
Post Number: 34
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 08:25 am: |
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Jeff I think it would be fun, lets go, are you sure? Maybe one day, Sat. woudd be best for me Brad |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 136
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 02:53 pm: |
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Brad I don't know it looks like just a bunch of racing for the go fast guys
Jeff Bar |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 79
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 09:22 am: |
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Bud says there will be trail riding as well as the races for Memorial Day Weekend. I don't know how elaborate the trail system is- last time I was at Pine Lake was 1973 and there were no trails at the time. I just tried the Pine Lake site and it didn't work, but I'm assuming it will be back up soon. http://www.fischercycle.com/fischer_cycle_racing_new_015.htm |
Ryan Singer
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Username: 6x6mudder
Post Number: 62
Registered: 07-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 10:07 am: |
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Don I would like to know more about the trail rides too as I am really not interested in racing Ryan |
Lance Sammer
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Username: Cragen
Post Number: 42
Registered: 08-1997
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 12:24 pm: |
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Nice to have you back Don, are you going to the race
Lance |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 80
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 06:53 pm: |
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Ryan, last I heard Bud was getting some trails ready for the race weekend, but I haven't heard how many there will be. I'll be sure and post it if I hear anything more.
Lance, I was never really gone- there just wasn't many times that I thought I could add anything useful! I'll be racing along with my two teenagers (they're about the age I was the last time I did this!)
Don |
Ryan Singer
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Username: 6x6mudder
Post Number: 66
Registered: 07-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 09:12 am: |
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Don
Thanks fro checking into the trails, I would like to come, if there is going to be trails, What do you mean by getting trails ready? Ryan |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 143
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 05:12 pm: |
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Anyone going?
Jeff Bar |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 81
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 09:56 pm: |
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Ryan; I'm not sure, but I don't think there were many (if any) trails at Pine Ridge until now. Bud may be breaking new ones or remarking existing ones. I'll post if I hear more. |
Ryan Singer
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Username: 6x6mudder
Post Number: 70
Registered: 07-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 07:14 am: |
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Don Many thanks for the update, please keep me posted Ryan |
Ryan Singer
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Username: 6x6mudder
Post Number: 72
Registered: 07-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 09:47 pm: |
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Don We have decided to come, thanks for the information. What day(s) are you going to be there, I want to meet you Ryan |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 146
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 01:01 pm: |
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Does not seem to much interest, is there?
Jeff Bar |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 82
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |
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That's great, Ryan. We plan on being there late Thursday night or early Friday morning and staying until Monday morning. It'll be great to meet you.
There's an awful lot of people that say they're coming, Jeff, but many times when it comes down to the event lots of them are no-shows so it remains to be seen. |
robert longfellow
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Username: Maxinout
Post Number: 41
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 01:10 pm: |
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Don: We might come to watch racing, one day would be enough for us, what day would be best?
Robert |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 83
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 03:11 pm: |
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Probably Sunday, Robert. If they run it like they did years ago, there will be heat races on Saturday and feature races Sunday. Of course, that all depends on how many people/machines show up! |
robert longfellow
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Username: Maxinout
Post Number: 42
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 07:07 pm: |
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Don
Thanks for the message, we are considering driving over to see the show Robert |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 84
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 07:52 pm: |
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I just read a post from Whipper about the event- he's been talking to Bud and keeping everyone up to date. A few of the trails were a little torn up from the quads and Bud's been grooming some of them, and there's plenty of mud & water for everybody. I remember a couple lakes on the place. It should be a great weekend- maybe if there's enough people/machines to compete, we can talk him into making it an annual event.
Don |
robert longfellow
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Username: Maxinout
Post Number: 44
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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Don Thanks for the note, we will try it on Sunday Robert |
Lance Sammer
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Username: Cragen
Post Number: 49
Registered: 08-1997
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 02:10 pm: |
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I might come to, got any directions? Lance |
Don Kinyon
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Username: Oldnatva
Post Number: 85
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 06:21 pm: |
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It looks like there's going to be a pretty good turn out for the Ashtabula races. We're loaded up and ready to go; should be leaving in the wee hours of the morning. If anyone needs an address to punch into the GPS or Mapquest, use this one:
2488 Plymouth Gageville Rd
Ashtabula, OH 44004
That address should get you close, but you'll have to take Maple road to the track (by the looks of it, Maple starts right at the address given.
Hope to see many of you there. |
Jeff bar
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Username: Argo8x8
Post Number: 149
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 08:47 pm: |
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Don Have a good time, be safe
Jeff Bar |
Alan Will
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Username: Whipperag
Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2010
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The 40 year anniversary was a success,I think.
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Model Citizen
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 07-2017
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 09:29 pm: |
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And that's not all of the machines. There were about 10-12 more machines to the right that didn't fit in the frame. I know, because one of them was me. Great bunch of people. |
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