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Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 447
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.212.36
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 03:10 pm: | 
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I went for a nice long ride yesterday. I rode about a half mile then went into a lake and swam the Max up a small creek for about a mile. It is a rocky limestone area and sometimes I make it out, other times the water is to low. Yesterday I thought I'd give it a try so I had to break through a thin sheet of ice to swim up the creek. I broke ice for about a quarter mile then made it to the exit point. It took several tries due to the slime that was built up but I made it out. I had not ridden the area for almost a year. There were a lot of trees knocked down so I had to work around the big ones. It was starting to get dark and I found the trail and started heading back to my start point. There were several small trees across the trail between six inches and foot in diameter. When I was in the middle of crossing one something caught my eye. Someone had pounded some 10" nails into the tree so the sharp point was at about a 45 degree angle and pointing up the trail. I had one tire already over the log so I really could not back up so I figured I might as well keep on going. I went over the log without incident. If I had been moving on the trail from the opposite direction I would have most likely put a nail into a tire or into the lower body.
So I am now watching closely along the trail. At almost every tree across the trail I found nails.
Then in tight areas I started seeing nails in the trees about shoulder to head high. No problem for me but to a guy on a 4 wheeler with his elbows out it could have been a serious problem.
I didn't have the equipment to pull the fallen trees or cut them or remove the nails. So I am going to try and get back out there this afternoon or tomorrow and clean them out. |
Derek Hubbard
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Username: Justmax
Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 75.179.52.62
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 01:55 pm: |
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Sounds like an environmentalist's tactic to keep ATVs out of the woods. I have talk to some motorcycle riders about slick spots on curvy mountain roads. These spots are cooking oil with oil dry on top. These places are hard to see or to tell which is road and which is just some dirt on the road. This is just a thought and this may not be the case for you. Being in road construction, some clearing companies use nails to mark trees for removal, maybe not 10" nails.
All I can say "be careful in your efforts, because it sounds like someone had the intent to hurt atv riders.
Derek |
Argohunter
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Username: Argohunter
Post Number: 37
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 205.188.116.8
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 01:59 pm: |
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Your experience reminded me of something that happended to me in the 70's while snowmobiling on a state owned public trail at night. The trail was an old railroad grade that passed through private lands on both sides. Someone had stretched a strand of old fence line wire across the trail just above windshield high. I did not see it and it scraped over the top of my helmet. Thankfully I was going slow at the time. Was the trail you were riding on public land? Sounds like someone is out to cause trouble. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 448
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.184.137
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:01 pm: |
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I considered environmentalists. The area could also be for someone trying to keep people away from a meth lab or cannabis field.
Most likely hunters wanting to keep people out of the area that they have scouted or claimed for themselves.
No matter, it does show intent to cause damage and harm. |
Argohunter
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Username: Argohunter
Post Number: 38
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 205.188.116.8
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Is this public land? If it is, you should consider reporting it to the authorities. I hate to think that hunters are responsible for doing this. In general, most hunter's are very ethical but as we know, there all always some rotten apples that can give a bad name to whatever group they are associated with or sport they participate in. I agree, there was malicious intent by the person responsible. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 449
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 71.244.184.137
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:36 pm: |
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Yes, it is a public area. It is not managed or maintained. It is owned by a local town that has the area for the lake as a water reservoir. They do allow hunting, camping, ATVs, fishing and boats. I did see a couple of tree stands in the area while I was on the trail. |
Argohunter
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Username: Argohunter
Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 205.188.116.8
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 07:19 pm: |
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Yes, I see the picture. Your hunch may be correct as to who was responsible. I wonder what would happen if someone got injured by the nails. All multi use activities could suffer if the town got sued. |
Jack Ouellette
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Username: Beungood
Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:48 pm: |
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Does your state have Environmental Police or Conservation Police? I think I would report this to them. They could have over flights to the area and see if there are Cannibis grows. I would be afraid some kid might get injured going in there. Terrorism at it's best. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 450
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 131.230.43.2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:22 pm: |
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Yes we have Conservation Police, One of the guys I trained before he switched agencies is one. I'm going to let him know. It is not cannabis season now but we have a lot of clandestine meth labs out in the woods. I have ran across the remants of a couple. I think this may be more hunter related. People trying to prevent others from going into an area they have scouted and claimed. I'm ging to out and clean up the area and monitor it for more activity like this. |
Jack Ouellette
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Username: Beungood
Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:27 am: |
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Are you on the job Jerry? |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 454
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 12.214.180.94
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:50 am: |
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Yes, The Max dealership is more of a hobby. I wish I were selling more. I sure can't quit my second shift job. |
Jack Ouellette
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Username: Beungood
Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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Yeah,makes two of usalt hough I am stuck on day patrol. I wouldn't mind having a dealership or working for some that has one. I always thought that these machines would be great for use on the job for search and rescue and park patrol. Seem more versatile than the quad we got on a homeland security grant. |
Argohunter
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Username: Argohunter
Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 205.188.116.8
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 02:02 am: |
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Do you have access to an outdoor digital camera? We use the Recon Cam on the job. Works below zero outdoors and also good inside. They also record video. May work out to develop a POI if not a downright suspect. Good luck. |
Bud
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Username: Budtx
Post Number: 83
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 167.230.104.90
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 11:18 am: |
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Gosh, I hate to hear about stuff like this.
It makes one want to perform some recon and set booby traps to catch these idiots. |
Chuck McGhee
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Username: Chuck_050382
Post Number: 108
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 12.170.193.98
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:19 pm: |
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Jerry is this at the herin lake? |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 455
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 12.214.180.94
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:37 pm: |
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Hi Chuck, yes it is. |
david berger
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Username: Davidrrrd
Post Number: 495
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 72.72.32.68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:09 pm: |
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i dont know if the recon camera argo hunter mentioned is the same as the cameras im thinking about,
but i have sean cameras in magazines that you set up along a trail or in the woods some place to take pictures of dear ect.ect.
it's used to check out game trails ect..
some operat by timer, and some have sensors that trigger them,
posably some do video,
but they might be used to capture pics of your weirdo saidist freak. |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 456
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 131.230.43.10
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 06:55 pm: |
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I thought about that. I want to remove the hazards and see if they return. I'd want something that is motion triggered but with no flash. |
Mike Maroni
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Username: Micmac
Post Number: 104
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 204.188.172.194
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 09:03 pm: |
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Jerry,
Cabella's sells different game trail cameras. Some of the higher end ones are infrared no flash models designed to not spook game... or you friendly neighborhood crackhead.
Mike |
Jerry R. Nuss, Max Dealer in Illinois
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Username: Jerrynuss
Post Number: 458
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 131.230.43.1
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 09:26 pm: |
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I was looking at some of the IR digital cuddleback cameras. hey are pricey. My luck it would get found and stolen. |
Argohunter
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Username: Argohunter
Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.199
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:40 am: |
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Jerry the Recon Cam I mentioned was issue and I don't know what the dept paid but they bought several. It uses infrared sensor, no flash and can be laser aimed during set up. It uses a digital flash card for storage. There are some steel box mounts to deter theft but like anything else, it still could be stolen. Properly camo'd in the woods it could go undetected. We have ID'd a few copper thieves with these cameras. My issue works well in below zero temps. The only issue I have had so far is snow covering the lens up. You get what you pay for so stay away from the inexpensive cameras. |
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