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Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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It's been a long time since I've been behind the sticks of a Max spinning through a mud hole. I sold my '99 Max II two years ago and have only concentrated on selling new machines since then. I got tired of watching from the side lines and picked up a '98 Max IV today. It has the 18hp Briggs, roll cage, windshield, new style heated throttle cable, and hour meter (right on 100). It has 26" tires with solid splined axles and o-ring chains. The chains have never been adjusted and are still tight (ain't o-rings great?). I am getting everything cleaned and set up the way I want it. The last owner took the back seat out and moved the front seat back so I'm putting everything back how it was. Looks like a great machine to bury in the deepest mud hole I can find. I'm going to round up a few 6x6ers and go to Deepwater, Missouri soon. Email me at bprice@ktis.net if you are interested and I will also be calling a few of you. I'll post pics of the newest MaxRules Max soon.
LET'S RIDE! |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Call me when you have a date. If I can make it, I will. |
Motown's (Bigwolf)
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Brandon,
Alright Brandon, good to hear that you are once again behind the sticks of a Max!
I have a favor to ask, can you provide me with the dimentional information and digital photo's of the windshield for the Max IV. I want to make up a lexan windshield that is identical if possible for my Max IV. I would also need some details on the mounting and support brackets and the placement location of the snaps for the canvas cover.
If you are interested in sellijg your winshield, let me know. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Hey Brandon!
Good to hear your back at it- you knew it would happen eventually- by the way, your website looks pretty good- some great pics there. |
David Seidel (6x6aatv)
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Brandon,
If you do get a chance to measure up that windshield and maybe some pics, could you forward them to me as well. I want to use my Max IV for Ice Fishing early season and want to build an aluminum support cage (not roll over protection) for some kind of top. I need to build a windshield also.
Thanks, David in St. Paul, MN |
Rogersmith (Rogersmith)
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Allright Brandon's back in the saddle again! Now he'll do a MaxIV legacy. I've been thinking about Deepwater, count me in. |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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WOW! I forgot what Maxing was all about! I just got back from laying a path of destruction through the woods. My Max has a homemade tree basher bumper on the front and it works great. I've got big piles of brush in the woods and I just smashed right over them. The machine runs good and all I need now is some differential additive to smooth out the tranny. I'm used to these new machines with feather soft turning. The 18hp gets around good but it's pretty gutless for much of my type of riding. Putting a 25/27hp engine in the Max IV makes it a whole different machine, that's for sure. I took it for a night ride and those old round headlights are like little candles mounted on the front. I don't know why RI sold something like that. I wish this Max had the newer square lights.
Gary I'd be glad to get you measurements of this windshield. I haven't used it yet but I think it will be nice in the cold weather and to keep the brush out of my face.
The cold weather is coming in quick but we'll have to make it to Deepwater in the next few weeks. I'll make a few calls and see when some riders can make it and we'll try to catch a good weekend.
This Saturday, my Max will be dragging out that 30 point buck. |
Motown's (Bigwolf)
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Thanks for the reply Brandon, I have the same thoughts regarding the windshield, it will definately keep most of the cold air off when riding in the winter months. I plan to use a piece of that scratch proof lexan to make a winshield, and I want to make it the same size as the factory uses.
I have to say the same about the 27 HP Kawasaki engine in the Max IV, it has all the speed, power and torque that I need. It is an excellent engine package for the Max IV, it performs very well and is very reliable.
Glad to hear you are back in the saddle again! |
Bud
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Please add me to your contact list, Brandon. I'll see who from the family I can drag along to meet you at Deepwater.
Bud |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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Hey Bud, I've got you on the list. I think a ride within the next three weeks would be best (December 4). Two more weeks is Thanksgiving weekend so we'll past that one up. I'll make some calls on Monday, but for now, how does Dec 4 sound?
I did some more riding today after we got rain all night. This Max is running great and everything seems tight. I think I could get more power with a new belt but it's doing good. The only issue I've had is it choking out on steep hills. I can't defy death with an engine like that. Looks like I have some carb work to do.
I highly recommend the limited slip differential additive to anyone with an older T-20. When I first got this Max, I put in fresh ATF. The trans was so rough and grabby it wasn't even fun to drive. I changed the fluid again and added 4 ounces of additive. It is now very smooth and drives much better. It isn't 100% like a new machine, but it's a lot better than an old. |
Bud
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December 4 is good for me. I'll leave the death defying demonstrations to you, but will be sure to bring the camera. :) |
Rogersmith (Rogersmith)
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The 4th sounds good. We may have Jeff & Michelle come up, too, the new max owners/dealer in N.E. OKlahoma. |
Jeff Warren
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Tell us more about Deepwater- we can't wait to go.
So is it for sure on Dec. 4th? Let me know so I can make plans.
Roger are you ready to buy a Max???
Ha
Hope to hear from you all,
the Warren's |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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I made a few calls today and it looks like December 4th is a good date. We'll set it for that date and hope for good riding weather. That could be warm and muddy or cool with some snow. I will plan to be there early Saturday morning. Most people only ride that one day but I might go for Sunday also if lots of people are riding.
To those who have never been to Deepwater. It's one of the best riding areas for amphibious vehicles. It is right on Truman Lake and has endless mud most times of the year. There are no rules and no fees to ride in the park. I have many years of Deepwater ride pics posted on my site for anyone wanting to check out the terrain.
Let's do a roll call for who can make it on December 4th and what you'll be riding. |
Rogersmith (Rogersmith)
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I'd like to have a MaxII, Jeff. It gets boring driving the same thing for years.. had fun in Jon's II at Haspin. Can't afford another toy right now, though.
Might see you this weekend below the Dam. |
Bud ( - 167.230.38.106)
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Roll call response:
Bud and family will be there with our Max II. |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Roger, I have a Max II 23hp demo that has your name on it. I could bring it up to Deepwater just for you. I might bring it up anyway just to ride? |
JeffWarren
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Jeff,Michelle,Austin & Kaleigh are palnning on being there on Dec 4th.
Can some one post the best way to get there after we reach Deepwater?
We will proably bring 2 of our demo's - One is a MaxIV 23HP Kohler, Camo, 26" tires, fornt seat has been moved back for tall people. the other is a MaxII 18HP Briggs, 22" tires, Green. But I still have another one if anyone is interested a Brown 18HP Briggs with 22" tires & other up grades.
Roger I can wheel & deal with ya!!!
Thanks Brandon for the positive word About RECREATIVES INDUSTRIES - i agree totally
It sure is funny how disgruntled, terminated employees can start such viscious rumors.
Buy the way to all dealers _RI got the computers fixed today, they had a problem with the computers & should get everybodys inventory posted within the next couple of days.
Hope to meet a lot of new friends next month at Deepwater.
the Warrens |
Rogersmith (Rogersmith)
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Troy, I would take a spin in it if you brought it, but please don't bring it just for me. I can't/don't want to afford another vehicle right now, and don't want to let go of the station wagon :)
We've been missing you at Haspin. I love that place. Wish more peeps could make it. |
Bill cripe (Bcripe)
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How do you like that 23 hp Max II? I have been thinking of getting one.
Thanks,
Bill |
Rogersmith (Rogersmith)
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Jeff, I'll send you details on deepwater.. it's easy to get around once you see the area. |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Bill,
The Max II 23hp is great. I think it actually has more power then what the 22" tires will handle. A more agressive tire would work better but its a very fun machine to ride as it is. |
Bill cripe (Bcripe)
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It just spins them too easily? Recreatives also told me that its very quiet. Much quieter than the 14hp or 18hp. What do you think of that? It sounds like a heck of a rig. Is it much faster on the ground?
Thanks,
Bill |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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That engine can spin the tires easy in mud or loose dirt/gravel. It is quieter and faster. It runs about the same top speed as the Max IV with 25hp. |
Eddie Beddingfield
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Bill, The governed engine speed will still keep the top speed the same.The only way to get more speed is gearing, or set governed speed higher ,or bypass altogether,not usually a good idea though. Eddie |
pete ( - 216.127.78.98)
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Col. Jack Ripper ( - 64.246.58.26)
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Bombs Away |
Bill cripe (Bcripe)
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Thanks alot. Sounds like a real nice machine. My 14hp wont spin the tires in much of anything! The Max IV may be a great machine, but I just dont like the looks. That 23 hp max II will be my next! :-D
Thanks,
Bill |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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All new Max IIs should run the same speed. They all turn 4000 RPMs with the same gearing. RI is sometimes not very picky with setting RPMs, so it is possible to have one Max that is faster than another. The added power of the 23hp engine will allow it to get up and run full speed faster than the other Max IIs. I would only get the 23hp if I was running tracks. My personal favorite Max II is the 18hp. It has plenty of power with the added benefit of a recoil pull starter. The 18hp also costs nearly $1000 less than the 23hp. |
Bill cripe (Bcripe)
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I would be using the Max as a work horse too. Tracks, plow and pulling a tow mower, dump trailer, and wood trailer. Thats why the 23 horse is alot more desirable for me.
Thanks,
Bill |
mark (Maxmark)
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hey Bill your max with the 23 hp isn't going to pull much more than any other one. The weak point in these (And most 4 wheelers to be fair) is the cvt set up they use. I use my max II here on the farm for alot and it works well for many chores we throw at it, but it is no tractor! I have stuck a trailer behind it a couple times and where as the motor has plenty of pulling power,it won't move as the drive belt gives. Mine is a 16hp version. I would have to agree with Brandon that 18hp is more than enough and a big money savings. If you really need a work horse you just may consider buying a tractor instead.....Mark |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Mark, You need to try some belt dressing and be sure your laterals are completely engaged. If your drive belt disintegrates, I will agree that you are trying to move more than the CVT will handle; until the belt is destroyed, you have nonfunctioning parts. In theory, either your wheels should spin or your engine should die. |
mark (Maxmark)
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Fred,thanks for your reply,but my belt never disintigrated. I simply backed off on the throttle, unhooked the trailer and got a tractor to pull the trailer out. Both times the trailer was full of firewood and totally buried in the mud! My max is a 2004 model with only 30 hours on it and everything is in proper adjustment. I use my max to move all sorts of things here and it is a useful addition to our equipment inventory,but by no means is a replacement for a tractor(The max is a whole lot more fun though!). Each has it's own particular uses and areas where it will out shine the other. A compact 4 wheel drive tractor or other small tractor (9N ford as example) will out pull a max with little effort. The max is much better and quicker for light pulling and hauling and for chores such as say,checking fenceline. Previously I used a 4 wheeler with cvt trans here and it would do exactly the same thing when it had too much load, just the nature of the beast I guess....Mark |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Mark, My point was that all drive belts (new or old) will perform better (and last longer) with belt dressing. In any situation where the driver thinks his belt is slipping or he cannot go, he is having a part failure. The CVT drive belt is designed to be a direct connection meaning it is not the part that fails as long as it is in tact. Again, your tires should spin or your engine should die or your belt should explode. If your drive belt slips, it is not performing correctly and should have belt dressing. The new Ford Freestyle uses a CVT drive system and you can bet that they have no slippage.
The reason I said to make sure your laterals are all the way forward is because your drive belt might not be slipping: it might be that your tranny bands are not completely engaged. I see this most often when new owners try to climb steep hills. They inadvertently pull back on the laterals just a little when climbing, partially disengaging the tranny bands. Some people think the tranny bands slip during operation, but that is not true if they are fully engaged (unless maybe have too much friction modifier in the ATF). Again, if the drive system is working correctly, when you have too much weight (and not enough traction), your wheels will spin; if you have too much weight and too much traction, your engine will die. Your belt should not slip and your tranny bands should not slip - if either does, you have something wrong requiring belt dressing on your drive belt and/or new fluid in your tranny. The Max is designed to drag 1000 pounds dead weight; that is equivalent to about 4000 pounds on wheels, maybe more.
I agree that the extra HP is not really needed in a Max except for hauling heavy loads up steep hills, operating in high altitudes or with the tracks on, but I have never talked to anyone who was upset because his machine had too much power. And I agree with Brandon that the higher HP engines allow one to get to speed faster (and to maintain speed better). I also agree that a Max is not a tractor and that a tractor is better when a tractor is needed. We all need to remember that a machine that weights about 1000 pounds or less (725) for a Max II cannot compete with a 2000 or more pound tractor. |
Bill cripe (Bcripe)
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Hey guys, thanks for the info. I have a Kubota Grand L 3430 so the heavy duty stuff is handled. I was just thinking about after the heavy duty landscaping is done it would be alot easier to do lighter duty stuff than with my tractor (especially since the tractor is a bear for me to get on). Towing a mower, garbage trailer, water trailer, small wood trailer, etc.
Hey Fred, so my belt must have been slipping because with it at full throttle, pulling out a root wad it would just bog down a bit but not break the tires loose. The sticks were all the way forward.
Thanks again,
BC |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Bill, Without being there, I'm going to say, Yes, your belt was probably slipping. Of course, a Max with 22" or 26" tires has pretty darn good traction on firm surfaces and it is really hard to get all six tires to spin; a powerful engine doesn't just die real easy - it will bog down and you will know it is trying to pull more than it will handle. You know how your lawn mower dies when you try to cut too tall of grass, or a skid steer loader dies when you try to pick up or push too big a load!
What's really neat about belt dressing, is it won't hurt anything (except your starter if you spray it on the belt with the belt installed)and it covers all the bases, performance wise. If you use the spray stuff, take the belt off before you spray it so you don't make a mess inside your tub. I personally think belt dressing is just as important as gas, oil and having the right air pressure in your tires. |
John Martin
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I can't see any way how the belt dressing would give your belt such a good "grabbing" effect on the drive and driven clutches of the CVT to kill the motor. We had a late model Max IV with a 25hp Kohler at a lawnmower/tractor pull and hooked up the Max to the sled for the hell of it and when the load gets too heavy it will spin the belt on the pulleys long before it would ever kill the engine even with the belt dressing. The 6 tires had no chance to even try to break traction. There is no way a rubber belt it going to work well in that situation. Maxes are not designed to drag heavy loads the way they are set up with the CVT system. If the load is on a trailer it works a litte better but not much if the load is very heavy. |
mark (Maxmark)
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Hey Bill sounds like you have all the work horse you will ever need with that Kubota. The max would be great for doing the jobs you have lined up for it. And yes they are ALOT easier to get on than a tractor for sure! I use mine a bunch around here,in fact I have kind'a been getting lazy as I take it places I just used to walk to. The best use I have found for this thing so far is to accompany my 9 yr, old daughter on her horse rides through the woods. We have a blast and I don't have to ride a horse!!! Fred it seems others have had the exact experience trying to pull too much. I am going to take your suggestion about the dressing and see what happens. If I can pick your brain about something else, my max pulls to the left quite a bit. Checked tires, chains and plungers,all seem fine. Any ideas? Thanks.....Mark |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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John, I said "in theory". I'm not saying a belt won't slip instead of spin the tires or kill the engine if the load is excessive, especially with the higher HP engines. What I am saying is that by using belt dressing (on both edges of the belt) regularly, one will assure the best performance possible (much improved from a non dressed belt) and the belt will last a lot longer. The Max is only rated to pull 1000 dead weight and if you cannot do that without a dressed belt that you can with a dressed belt. The Max IV and Buffalo are rated to haul 1000 pounds up hill and if you cannot do that with an undressed belt, you can with a dressed belt. The reason for my input is to help others improve their vehicle performance.
Mark, four things cause a skid steer to pull one way or the other. (1) Tire circumference which is affected by tire pressure, wear or factory defect. All tires should be the same size around. (2) PSI in the tires should be equal, but if size is a problem, harder or softer can alleviate the situation. Softer tires (lower PSI) have more drag than harder tires (higher PSI). If one is pulling to the left, having higher pressure in the left side and lower pressure in the right side can let you run true. (3) weight distribution; with the engine on the left and the driver on the left, most machines pull to the left (hence the throttle on the right lateral to make it easy to correct course). (4) something mechanical that is putting more drag on one side than the other. This can be a chain or chains tighter on one side than the other or a bearing that does not turn as easily as the rest. It can be a bent axle.
I don't think the tranny is ever a cause of pulling one way or the other unless there is something preventing the laterals from going all the way forward or all the way back (even if the travel is different, as long as both sticks completely engage the bands, the tranny will run true).
It takes about twenty five hours for a max to be broke in. The factory sends machines out with the chains a little tight to accommodate for initial stretch (the o-ring chains take longer for initial stretch). The bearings are low speed bearings and aren't always exactly the same. It does take a while for the tranny bands to settle in also. I encourage everyone to not do anything except adjust tire pressure and load distribution until a machine has 30 hours of use on it; if after that they still have a pulling problem to check further.
When I had many miles of electric fence (on regular fence), the max was the perfect fence checking machine. I could drive along it and unwrap as necessary without getting out of the machine or getting shocked (the rubber tires kept me from being grounded and I didn't touch anything except the hot wire). The max is also an excellent cattle chasing machine. I had better luck moving cattle by myself with a max than with myself horseback and three mounted helpers (I was a horse trainer many years ago). I'm not really saying a max will completely replace a horse, but in most environments it is better and can go many places a horse cannot (and places one would never ask a horse to go). |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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There seems to be some confusion over how these CVT drive systems work. It is true power can be lost by poorly operating clutches and belt. The belt drive, however, is definitely not a limiting factor for putting power to the ground with an all-terrain vehicle. First, snowmobiles use this same system and those engines put out over 100hp. Our 6x6 vehicles have only 27hp at the most. Six aggressive tires on dry ground take a huge amount of power to turn, more power than most 6x6s have. The smaller Maxs (II 14-16hp, IV 18hp) will never dream of spinning the tires. The bigger engines (II 23hp, IV 27hp) will spin all six under most conditions. No engine should ever die when connected to an automatic transmission such as those in a car or a CVT type. The clutches on our belt drive systems are just that... clutches. They slip until enough power is made to achieve lockup. Our weak little 16hp engines can't lay down enough power to force the clutch to grab when the six tires are giving so much resistance. |
mark (Maxmark)
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Hey Brandon I don't think there is confusion on how they work,just a disagreement on wether or not they are supposed to slip. Mine has a couple of times now with a VERY heavy load stuck in the mud. My max had good traction, but the trailer was mired in a low spot and I just wasn't moving it. But that brings us back to them not being a tractor. Fred thanks for the advice. I have one tire slightly larger than the others and it would put it on the right side to make it pull. Also the great thing about max over a horse is that max is alot easier to clean up after. Seems to eat less too!!!!! Hope everyone has a great holiday........Mark |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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Missouri has snow falling! It is already fairly deep and very heavy and wet. The trees and power lines are reaching for the ground. Totally unrelated to the snow, the electric meter to my house decided it was only going to half ass it's job today. One line coming in is dead, the other is still good. That means no 240v appliances (HEATER) and half my rooms without light. I got the wood fireplace going and decided to go out and destroy something with my Max. Destroy I did!... I had a blast sliding around in the fresh snow. The hills are very slick and I decided to side hill one next to a fence. The Max slid into the fence which was no problem, except this fence was half on the ground already. The 26" tires instantly grabbed the wire and the axle wrapped it up tight. I used the full throttle technique of escape. The fence is now a mess of wire and much of it was connected to the axle. Luckily I still had my Leatherman tool from working on my electric and I cut all the wires. The wire pulled the lock collar off the outer bearing. It took some doing to get up out of the woods and soon a chain began popping. The inner lock collar also let go and now the axle is free floating. The Mighty Max limped back to camp determined to not leave me walking. I made it to the garage and did a damage assessment. I think if I take the tire off and cut the wires off, I can set the axle back in place and it will be ready to roll. I will work on it in a few days and let you all know how it goes. If it is seriously broken, MaxRules may not be able to devastate Deepwater. |
David Keeso (Argomag)
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Nice job Brandon- nothing like blowing off some steam and destroying stuff- I love doing that!
just hate the repair part especially when it requires a monetary transaction! |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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It looks like I will not be making the Deepwater ride. It's up to those who were going to decide if you will still ride. I'm sorry I won't be able to ride, my Max has more problems than I care to fix right now. The axle appears to be bent on the inside of the vehicle from the extreme pressure of the chain binding. I'll probably need a new sprocket and bearing also. I'm going to shove it off to a corner of the garage and forget about it for a while. I'll let you guys know when it is rolling again and we can plan a good weekend for Deepwater. |
philipatmaxfour ( - 216.208.194.68)
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FRED
I have just over 100 hours on my Max 1v 900T
I added shims under the engine twice for no reason other than the fact that the belt seemed to have much more than the 1 3/4 inch of slack called for in the manual. I also see that there is a slight bend in the front right foot of the engine table at the motor mount. Since I have read your posts that the drive belt doesn,t need to be so tight, I have left mine alone and it seems to have stretched back to where it was and runs as good as ever. We went to the Copper Ridge run in Olean N.Y. last July and it climbed everything that we aimed it at. Here then is my question---Should I apply belt dressing??---Do I have to remove the belt from the machine??---Can I horse the belt off without removing engine shims or motor mounts??-- any tips?--Thanks Warren Philip-- damn I love this machine |
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FRED
I have just over 100 hours on my Max 1v 900T
I added shims under the engine twice for no reason other than the fact that the belt seemed to have much more than the 1 3/4 inch of slack called for in the manual. I also see that there is a slight bend in the front right foot of the engine table at the motor mount. Since I have read your posts that the drive belt doesn,t need to be so tight, I have left mine alone and it seems to have stretched back to where it was and runs as good as ever. We went to the Copper Ridge run in Olean N.Y. last July and it climbed everything that we aimed it at. Here then is my question---Should I apply belt dressing??---Do I have to remove the belt from the machine??---Can I horse the belt off without removing engine shims or motor mounts??-- any tips?--Thanks Warren Philip-- damn I love this machine |
Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max dealer (Fred4dot)
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Warren, To use or not to use belt dressing certainly is a personal decision. Just for the extra belt life is reason enough for me to use it; add in always excellent performance and it is a no brainer in my book. I use the liquid/paste stuff that comes in a plastic bottle from NAPA and put it on both belt edges with my finger, rotating the belt slowly by hand with the engine off.
If you use the spray stuff, yes, you should take the belt off. You should be able to remove your drive belt without taking anything apart. Walk the belt off the front most edge of the driven pulley (on the tranny) and then twist the belt to get it between the body and the driven pulley. Rotate the pulleys and work the belt off the bottom of the driven pulley. It is a tight fit, but does come right off (this is true on a machine that has not been altered - your added shims might make it too tight, but I doubt it). I think that the play in the 900T (maybe the 950T, too) belt is just a little more than the other models when it comes from the factory. When talking to Jay at RI about this subject in the past, he pointed out to me that it is really hard to be able to measure deflection and an easier method to check tightness is to pinch the belt together (using the fingertips of both hands pushing toward each other) where it goes over the upper most position of the drive pulley - you want about 1/8th inch space between the belt and the pulley core. My method is in how easy the belt is to get off: if it comes off real easy, it is too loose; if it is too hard, it is too tight.
Don't know what to say about the bend in the foot of the mount, except that I think it is probably as it should be.
Brandon, You should fix your machine and go riding. It can't take over an afternoon! |
philipatmaxfour ( - 216.209.98.175)
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THANKS FRED you are a great help to many of us.Iwill get the liquid/paste stuff and use it next week. Warren Philip
Brandon---Fred's right,people look up to you,--Hell I'd drive all day to watch you ride myself,
fix the beast--do the deepwater ride--have a blast. best of luck W.P. |
Jeff Warrenj
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How many of you guys are planning on going on to Deepwater? We would like to know, we planned on bringing two MAXS to ride.
The Warrens - Northeast OK Dealer |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon_price)
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Jeff we are calling it off for at least a couple weeks. My Max is taken apart but the new parts will not arrive before the weekend. It's probably best that we wait anyway. I know many more 6x6 riders that couldn't make it this time, so we could have more riders on another weekend. Maybe only one or two weekends later would work? (Dec 11, 18) |
Bud ( - 167.230.38.106)
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Thanks for the heads up call, Brandon. I'll leave my Saturdays as open as possible waiting for the reset date.
Best of luck to you in getting your beast repaired. I'm glad to hear that the axle is not bent! |
Jerry
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Brandon, what do these rides consist of? Just bought that Terra Tiger and got it running last night. Are these rides for Max owners only? |
Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler)
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Jerry, no these rides are not for only Max owners. We want everyone to come and ride. You would be more then welcome to ride your Terra Tiger. |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon Price)
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Behind the sticks once again! I got a Max II today that I'll be keeping for a while to take on rides. It's a 2004 Max II 16hp with 21" tires and roll bar. I sold this vehicle to a guy back in February and long story short, he didn't need it anymore so I bought it back. It's the perfect one to take on rides. I wish the weather wasn't getting colder already but there is still plenty of ride time. I'm thinking about Deepwater or Rockport. I've never rode at RP (except as a passenger) so we need to gear up for some action. Everyone scrape the dust off your 6x6s and lets go!!!!!!
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liflod
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HASPIN ACRES NEXT WEEKEND !!
Get your gear ready. |
Jerry R. Nuss
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Brandon this place is also relatively close and has some nice trail riding.
http://www.leormc.com/index.htm |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon Price)
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Haspin sounds like a great place to ride but that's farther than I want to drive at this time. I did take the Max out to my dad's farm last Sunday along with a friend on a Honda Foreman 4x4. He has about 350 acres with some fairly tough terrain. The Max even went up a steep creek bank that the Honda couldn't go up. This is the first Max II I've used with 21" tires and I am very satisfied with the performance. Although the tires look lame compared to the more aggressive 22" tires, they took mud and hills without a problem. The water speed with the 21' tires is also better.
Where are all the Missouri riders? |
cbolin (Unregistered Guest)
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Hey Brandon,
I live in Missouri, Where are you located, I live near Springfield, I have a '73 Attex do you have a good place to ride? |
Missouri's Max Dealer (Brandon Price)
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We ride at Deepwater most of the time, it is located near Clinton, MO. It is free to ride on and is owned by the Army Corps. They have about 400 acres right on Truman lake and there is plenty of mud and hills to ride all weekend. I know Bud in KS was wanting to ride there just a few weeks ago but I haven't heard if he went. We'll have to go soon on a good (warm!) weekend. My Max is ready to lay a path of destruction a country mile wide.
Deepwater in April 2005:
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Rogersmith
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That brings back memories, Brandon.
Last chance to reconsider Haspin!.. load the II in your truck and take off. Ride Friday noon till Sunday noon.
Deepwater map:
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Chad Bolin
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That looks like about 2 hours from me. From the looks of the picture I should make sure that my ride floats. Is there an anual event or do you guys just get together and ride. We have an area to ride in Cassville but I have not taken the Attex down there yet, Some of the guys that I work with say there are trails down there that go for about 20 miles over to Table Rock lake. There is Chadwick recreacion area also just north of springfield but I have not been out there. I just fixed a hole in the bottom of the tube where the previous owner ran a rock through it so it should float now. I am going to test it friday. Let me know if you guys are going riding soon. |
Rogersmith
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I'd like to know more about the Cassville/Table Rock area. Is it Nat'l Forest or a state WMA ? |
Chad Bolin
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It starts at the Roaring River Fish Hatchetery. There is a big camp ground and hicking tails there. just out sideof the hatchery there is fire roads and atv trails it is part of the mark twain national forest then it continues on to the Corps land around the lake. You have to buy a permit for $10 or $15 and have a slow moving viechle sign on the back. There is soposed to be miles of trails down there but I haven't really explored alot. but it is easy to get lost so bring a GPS. I will look into getting a map and more information. |
Rogersmith
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Thanks,that sounds like a place to look at. |
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