By curtis on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Well im really glad to finally find a site like this.I currently own an atv but have always wanted an argo my only concern is i hear that they tend to brake down quite frequently any info regarding this would be a big help.Oh ya i would be using the argo for primarily hunting in b.c.

By Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Curtis,
The Max and Argo are both very good machines and don't break down quite frequently as you heard. You do the proper maintenace, which isn't that much, they will last a very long time. Either one would be much better then any 4x4 atv out there, period.

By David Keeso (Argomag) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

They are very reliable as long as they are properly maintained. As long as you follow the regular maintenence procedures at the regular intervals, it will do what is asked of it. Like anything, things break and wear, but that is just part of owning machinery.

By Fred Sowerwine, Montana's Max Dealer (Fred4dot) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Curtis, You also have to understand that Skid steers are regularly asked to do things that quads just can't do (like turn in their own tracks, Haul heavy loads, go over logs, rocks, climb short 90 degree inclines, etc.) that are hard on the drive train. Fluids need to be changed and chains need to be kept in proper adjustment, but this is not hard and not very often on current models (o-ring chains require minimal attention). Please don't do what so many have done before you and compare a 2002 quad against an 1970s skid steer.

By curtis on Unrecorded Date: Edit

thank you all for taking the time to help me out one other thing i am alittle curious about is compared to a quad how do they go through the bush they must be quite abit wider and i'm not sure if anyone knows the B.C terrian but it can be alittle thick in spots but the quad seems to sneek through most of the time ,and do they float that good that anyone out there would consider crossing a fair size lake?thanks again

By David Keeso (Argomag) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

A large lake, not unless you have an outboard on the back and a bilge pump. If it is rough, forget it. They must be used in calm water. They manover through the bush easily, skid steer and on the spot turns. A quad won't do that!

By bushmonkey on Unrecorded Date: Edit

nov, 13 th 2002 I am concerding getting a new argo 8x8 20 hp, would like to know more on the bending of the axles I have been told that this is a common thing I live in winnipeg manitoba canada
and plan to use it up north around lynnlake the torain there is very rough by all means I will be using it to go to a remote cabin down the churchill river about 20 miles this will involve a lot of down the shore line and across bays I would
like to add duel tires I will use inverted rims on the inside to bring the tier closer to the body and use a spacer for the second tire I plan on using goodyear 3 22x11x8 is there any wider that
any one knows of and were do I get adaptors or do I make my own I hope some one can answer and help me out I need flotation

By Midwest atv's #1 since 2000 (Hustler) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Curtis, the Argo is a little wider then the max, but both will do ok in the bush. As far as floating, I have taken my demo out on Table Rock Lake and Truman lake here in Missouri. Both lakes are very large and I have crossed the main channels on both lakes. One took over 40 mins to do and the other took about 30 mins.

By Chris M. (Argomaster9000) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

To Curtis:

As David said before, the Argo is a machine, and there is no machine out there that doesn't break down. You car breaks down, your computer breaks down. With proper care and maintenance the Argo can last you for years. People still have Argos from the early 1980's! I personally found that the M:FF ratio (Maintenance-to-FunFactor ratio) is excellent on Argos! Low maintenance for all the fun you can sink your wheels into!

To Bushmonkey:

I own a Conquest 8x8 with the 20HP Kawasaki engine. My axles have never bent, but I've only owned it for a short time. I also have the front and back axles reinforced by steel guards which adds to the machine's ruggedness (in addition to a full-body skid plate). I went over a few rocks accidentally with it at near-full speed (didn't see them on the trail) and nothing happened. This makes me wonder what you have to do to the Argo to bend the axles (hehehe!).

By ken mcdougall (Bushmonkey) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

To CHRIS {ARGOMASTER 9000]
From BUSHMONKEY
I do not know what you have to do to bend axles
whati AM GOING TO TRY TO DO WITH THE TIRES ,BY RUNNING DOUBLES i THINK MAY DO IT THAT IS WHY i AM ASKING HAS ANY ONE TRIED IT BEFOR AND WHAT HAPPENED A LOT OF FORCE IS PUT ON THE AXLE FROM THE OUTER TIRE .I know argo is a good machine I am spending big bucks on it and do not want to destroy it by doing some thing that will not work
and only give me a problem .I am just trying to learn what I can do to inprove performace,argo has been around rof a long time so some one must have tried what I want to do .

By ken mcdougall (Bushmonkey) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

To CHRIS {ARGOMASTER 9000]
From BUSHMONKEY
I do not know what you have to do to bend axles
whati AM GOING TO TRY TO DO WITH THE TIRES ,BY RUNNING DOUBLES i THINK MAY DO IT THAT IS WHY i AM ASKING HAS ANY ONE TRIED IT BEFOR AND WHAT HAPPENED A LOT OF FORCE IS PUT ON THE AXLE FROM THE OUTER TIRE .I know argo is a good machine I am spending big bucks on it and do not want to destroy it by doing some thing that will not work
and only give me a problem .I am just trying to learn what I can do to inprove performace,argo has been around rof a long time so some one must have tried what I want to do .

By David Keeso (Argomag) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Chris, lets face facts first. As many of us have said, it will last with proper maintaince, but eventually, you will have to overhaul certain parts. Things wear and tear and they don't always require maintenence until they actually break. Drive belts eventually shear under certain conditions or aren't replaced when needed. Clutches do, but rarely blow and need to be replaced. Like your car, the tranny will eventually die if you have it long enough, brakes have to be rebuilt, new parts have to be installed. Like any machinery, it needs new parts eventually. We have only had to replace the driven, and drive clutch once within a month of each other. It was a lot of money, but had to be done. The brakes had to be overhauled so the brakes that were installed were the response brakes, and now the magnum stoppes so hard I refuse to use full brake force to stop. I have lifted the back end just by braking hard because my dogs ran in front of me on the road. You will love the ARGO, and/or max if that is what you get. Test out both, and see which one you like more and for what you will be doing with it. Max is apparently better for play, argo for work but both are good machines (ahhem, ahhem--ARGO RULES, they look better too) OOPS, I MAY HAVE JUST STARTED ANOTHER MAX VS. ARGO DEBATE BUT YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT FROM ME!!

By bigkodiak on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Curtis
I don't know about BC, but where I ride can get thick as well. If you can't get around it, Go OVER it. You will have a blast.

Bushmonkey
If you drive like I do you WILL bend axles. Most people do NOT drive like me.
Chances are since you are buying an 8 wheeler you are probably going to ride alot easier than I do.
Russ

By Chris M. (Argomaster9000) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Bushmonkey:

Ahh... Double tires is what you're talking about. I understand now. Sorry to say, but I have no experience with this really. Like I said before, my Conquest has steel-reinforced axle guards on the front and back axles. Although these are very tough, I can't say what may happen with duallies.

Also, personally speaking, I don't know how much of a performance increase you will really get with dual tires. Logically speaking, it will weigh down the Argo much more and may overwork your engine when turning the machine (lots of friction from dual tires). On dry ground this is especially true. That's why we don't put our tracks on until winter comes.

David:

I'm not denying a single word you're saying. You've just expanded on my message with a few really good points. Bushmonkey, are you listening to this smart SOB? :-) (HEH!)

Oh yeah, and one more thing... I seem to have a bad cold ***COUGH COUGH--Argo Rules!!!--COUGH COUGH***. (HAH!) Perhaps we should take this to the Argo vs. Max forum? Naw... both machines are awesome. Be happy with what you've got. There are some very unfortunate people in this world... They own quads! (HAH!)

By brent on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Curtis ...in answer to your question. Any quad cannot compare to a 6 wheeler for going through the bush. If you are only running trails and logging roads then i would stick with a quad but if you need to cross streams, make your own trails through bush then the AATV is the way to go. I have a 2000 argo bigfoot with over 500 hours on it. i have been places where no quad has ever been. They do require more maintenance then a quad but i have never been stranded in the woods because of a breakdown.

By David Keeso (Argomag) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Chris, TO the ARGO vs. max board!!!!!

By Douglas MacCullagh (Dougmac) on Unrecorded Date: Edit

Brent - I have to agree with you about an Argo in the brush. If you need to make your own trail, a 6x6 or 8x8 can push through like a small tank. My wife and I can ride together and go over top of some nasty brush. The only thing that ever stopped us was a semi-dry lake bed. For some odd reason ;-)the Argo tires broke through the crust and the machine tried to float in that bottomless muck and stuck fast. The next time I crossed that lake I waited until there was water in it!